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Discuss why is every thread being locked? The stickies are too long and confusing at the Turbo-, Supersim and Simcloning Solution - Hackint0sh.org; Originally Posted by Zf_ My point is that, in most cases they don't know, because ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zf_ View Post
    My point is that, in most cases they don't know, because they'll keep releasing unfinished products, make false promises, and so on. If I can help preventing a shady fail business to cheat more people, I don't really care if it makes my virtual self look like a tyrant.
    Just to add one to Zf_'s post. One of my friends could not resist trying one of the "solutions" on his 3G. Long story short: He fu.... up his iPhone, never got it working. xSim got stuck, ruined inside pins... He called me before, I told him not to try it, just stick with his 2g iphone for now. H called me an idiot and now crying.
    I do unserstand we want a forum to talk about. I have been using turbosim from 1.0.2-1.1.2, Zf_ helped us on this all the time, still have his posts. Talking of Turbosim prices: they always charged the same, even after the demand got sky-rocket. There were some guys having ordered 100 and more, then asking for +300$ at a time where Bladdox was out of stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zf_ View Post
    These threads are annoying me because the only thing they do is allow crap sellers to sell more crap. Those guys have never contributed to the community and never will, so these threads should annoy you too.
    Excuse me for asking... but how can anyone help "the community" if the all-mighty dev team keeps everything to itself?

    Sorry Zf_, but I think the dev team is just like Apple nowadays. If they release, great. Otherwise, it's crap.

    I think we should have a space around here for the unlocking solutions that currently works... even with its flaws. Even if they are *SIM solutions.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheShadow View Post
    Excuse me for asking... but how can anyone help "the community" if the all-mighty dev team keeps everything to itself?

    Sorry Zf_, but I think the dev team is just like Apple nowadays. If they release, great. Otherwise, it's crap.

    I think we should have a space around here for the unlocking solutions that currently works... even with its flaws. Even if they are *SIM solutions.

    Cheers,

    TheShadow.
    man this post is horrific, your crappy sim solutions can only run on jailbreaked phones right, the dev team is the reason why we have the ability to jailbreak our phones and do AMAZING things with it that it is capable of that apple will not let us do. Your post is absolutely ludircrous and ridiculous. How would you feel if they did not create a jailbreak? id be tempted not to have a iphone if there was no jailbreak. The amount of people on here who have broke there phones and sim trays using these products, fair enough, if somebody sends you a free sample fine, but there is absolutely no point in spending money on these crappy things you might aswell save your money and buy an officialy unlocked phone, i did and im so glad i never brought a locked phone and have to put up and fart around with these shittty sim solutions that only half work and would make my life of having an iphone a major hassle and inconvenience. I think yessim universalsim Iunlockyourphone100%gaurunteedsim should all go to hell.

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    hey guys, we're veering off topic here. We're just talking about closing up threads too early before any discussions or even warnings can be made. In the regards to the DevTeam, anyone coming online looking for iPhone information and decide to bash the dev team in any area is just purely inconsiderate and wrong. Without the DevTeam and a few others, there wouldn't be an iPHone "hacking" scene at all. We'd be stuck to using Apple's limited iphones. I bet most of us wouldn't even bother to buy an iphone, if we knew we couldn't put third party apps, etc. on it. So don't come and say stupid things about the devteam, be grateful. They did it for free out of their own hobby and interest. Releasing it to us, the public, is basically the nicest things only some people can bring themselves to do.

    Back to the topic. volkpost, my point exactly, you can warn them and warn them, stress your point, yet your friend go out there and do it, and you let him make his mistake, thats the way it is in the world. You can't do much else, trust me. Thats why I don't think people's thread should be closed just after two posts and some of those posts don't even have an advertisement for a sim, they were just questions, they were just other people who chime in and said, oh i use this, and its been working for this amount of days now, hopefully it will continue to work, etc. Then BAM! thread closed, and sometimes with huge letters, with bad language from the mods. As a moderator, I think you guys are just abusing it a bit much. If someone posted in huge letters, with a bad word, they'll get warned. Why do you guys do it? I'm a mod on another forum, threads that I close, just simply say, Thread Closed then I state my reason in the politest way possible. Done. But I don't close it because of my own beliefs or views, if someone is about to do somethign that I think is wrong, I simply say, from experience, this wouldn't work, it;ll have this effect and just let it run for a few days and see what others have to say. If it comes down to a heated argument with bad language, I close it down to keep peace among members. Please once again reconsider. Warn them against bad products, not shut them up all together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSLiNK View Post
    Back to the topic. volkpost, my point exactly, you can warn them and warn them, stress your point, yet your friend go out there and do it, and you let him make his mistake, thats the way it is in the world. You can't do much else, trust me. Thats why I don't think people's thread should be closed just after two posts and some of those posts don't even have an advertisement for a sim, they were just questions, they were just other people who chime in and said, oh i use this, and its been working for this amount of days now, hopefully it will continue to work, etc.
    I still believe that if you do that, it'll turn into total chaos quite fast with resellers coming fast to talk about the crap they're selling (*cough* unlocksomething *cough*), fake supporters, and so on

    All the bullshits in one single thread still seems like a better way to go IMHO.

    And yeah TheShadow you're welcome not to use the Dev Team solution if/when it comes out. It's important to stand by ones principles.
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    No. If they're trying to sell, you shut them down. Unless they donate to the site, but not like a 2 dollars donation either. Plus you can always check on fake supporters, they usually have the same IP with the sellers, or they have like one or two post, and they start out going, I've been using this solution......, i got it from this website... then those you shut down and ban their account. First few posts should never link to a sellign site. But if people just want to discuss or ask which sim solution others are using, please don't shut them down. They have the right to discuss it. The stickies are very very long, IMHO, you really shouldn't point anyone there for answers. Hackint0sh should start a policy regarding vendors on the site. For example there's one guy on the Classifieds thread that is a constant seller of iphoens here, he should donate some of his profit to the site. Even a few hundred wouldn't hurt, since he's been selling iphones since the 1st gen iphones. We gotta start that policy, so that the site have some money and we can really start to filter out crappy sellers or scam. Also there's been some posts, where its clearly scams, like the ones pointing to links of crap like www.unlockiphone3g.com or something to that affect. Where they sell software unlocks, those are pure scams, and I notice the original poster have like 1 or 2 posts. Now thats a scam. Shut those thread down ASAP. Anyways, I've really tried hard to explain myself, hopefully you guys as mods, will understand some of my points and take it into consideration before closing down threads too fast like before. Thank you to Zf and volkpost for bearing through this discussion with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zf_ View Post
    I still believe that if you do that, it'll turn into total chaos quite fast with resellers coming fast to talk about the crap they're selling (*cough* unlocksomething *cough*), fake supporters, and so on

    All the bullshits in one single thread still seems like a better way to go IMHO.

    And yeah TheShadow you're welcome not to use the Dev Team solution if/when it comes out. It's important to stand by ones principles.
    I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that the Dev Team is the main reason the Community is dividing, the main reason why we are eager to try *sim solutions.

    I've already offered help several times, asked for information several times... and guess what? Nothing.

    I think this should be an open forum about hacking the iPhone, even if it means not using the unlocking solution you may or may not (again, we don't know nothing) release.

    Sorry Zf_. No hard feelings, just my opinion.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfishman View Post
    man this post is horrific, your crappy sim solutions can only run on jailbreaked phones right, the dev team is the reason why we have the ability to jailbreak our phones and do AMAZING things with it that it is capable of that apple will not let us do. Your post is absolutely ludircrous and ridiculous. How would you feel if they did not create a jailbreak? id be tempted not to have a iphone if there was no jailbreak. The amount of people on here who have broke there phones and sim trays using these products, fair enough, if somebody sends you a free sample fine, but there is absolutely no point in spending money on these crappy things you might aswell save your money and buy an officialy unlocked phone, i did and im so glad i never brought a locked phone and have to put up and fart around with these shittty sim solutions that only half work and would make my life of having an iphone a major hassle and inconvenience. I think yessim universalsim Iunlockyourphone100%gaurunteedsim should all go to hell.
    That's your opinion. I respect and cherish the jailbreak and so on. My main gripe is that the DevTeam does not accept any kind of help, does not release actual status on the unlock and now "forbids" us to discuss another unlocking solutions.

    I think that *sim is crap too. I really prefer a software solution. But I also think that we should be able to discuss alternate solutions for now. My iPhone is unlocked as well, so no need to worry.

    But, what about every other people that bought a locked iPhone?

    I don't know why this part of the forum exists. If every thread is going to be locked, let's just shut the "sim" part altogether.

    Or at least, let's change the mod...

    Cheers,

    TheShadow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheShadow View Post
    I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that the Dev Team is the main reason the Community is dividing, the main reason why we are eager to try *sim solutions.

    I've already offered help several times, asked for information several times... and guess what? Nothing.

    I think this should be an open forum about hacking the iPhone, even if it means not using the unlocking solution you may or may not (again, we don't know nothing) release.
    I agree, this should be an open forum about hacking the iPhone, that's why discussing closed solutions that only exist to take your monies is not on topic.

    For the other part of the post, ask interesting questions and you might get interesting answers.
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    Obviously, you haven't fully understood my point. It IS an OPEN forum. Discussing any sorts of solution should be OPEN. Others wasting their own money IS their OWN problem. Discussing it should be open.

    As for TheShadow. If you have offered help and got rejected, then I guess, yes you can say the DevTeam is closing themselves off, for reasons unknown. Maybe an explanation would help, but since they are a team, they CAN choose to reject new members of the team, for fear of leaking of their own work, etc. (I do not want to get into Zibri and all that). But since the DevTeam is claiming that they are transparent (not sure about this part), maybe they are giving false claim abut themselves. Maybe they are not as transparent as they say they are. I dono. ANyways, this shall be my last post regarding this topic. Overall, I still don't believe that the mods should immediately close down every thread regarding sim solutions. Other this entire sub-forum should be closed, and maybe just ONE sticky thread in the 3G General Talk subforum instead. Cheers all.


 

 
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