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    Thanks RSIVAN (GRAZIE!!!)
    Sei sicuro che hai quel modello di Sim? Su ebay si parlava di "Ghost Number" in pratica come avere un numero principale, ma puoi ricevere anche dai numeri ghost. Non una sim dove puoi cambiare operatore da menu... Ci scambiamo gli ID skype o telefoni cos possiamo magari darci una mano a vicenda tra italiani? fai un messaggio privato.

    Are U sure it was the same sim advertised on Ebay? On the listing they were talking about "ghost numbers" that you can use contemporary to the main one. Is not a common double sim that allows you to change operator by a menu.
    Can U please check?

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    rsivan did the multi/magic sim that you used have the "invisible number" function? Below is the spec from the card that I linked to on eBay re. this function...
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    Invisible number function, SIM1 switch to SIM2, while SIM1 is invisible. When
    someone dials SIM 1, the system tone notices "The number you dialed can't connect at a moment, please dial later"
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    Does this mean that the the inactive sim (AT&T) is in some way still active on the phone at a low level way? I would guess so as how else would the network know to provide a busy signal? If that is the case then it has a chance of working for us as the iPhone will have already passed the sim validation routine. Maybe I'm well off base???

    Has anyone got one of these super sims with the invisible number function? If not, I will order one and give it a try.

    Thanks!

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    I think the problem in same once phone read a non at&t IMSI say error again
    for going into network the gsm chip need load IMSI and him inside have a clear rule like
    "if IMSI not star with usa at&t codes say sim invalid"
    you can try as last chance but i dubit
    let us informed here links for cards with ghost function

    http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA:IT&ih=013

    http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA:IT&ih=012

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    Quote Originally Posted by hubbards View Post
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    Does this mean that the the inactive sim (AT&T) is in some way still active on the phone at a low level way? I would guess so as how else would the network know to provide a busy signal? If that is the case then it has a chance of working for us as the iPhone will have already passed the sim validation routine. Maybe I'm well off base???
    As an inactive phone CAN complete a call to 911, it looks like it's active on a low level.

    R o n

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    Just to make it sure, rsivan: cloned AT&T card WORKED, when you copied the IMSI and set right MCC and MCN?? I mean, it was recognized by phone? If you don't have Ki, it was not able to log to GSM network.


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    this AT&T is not registered at server
    I have ki on my cards but whit only
    Imsi starting with AT&T USA
    the ipone d'ont say any error search for network
    I'using this cards since 1999 with old phones simlock trick
    did work but this recheck again for imsi and lock code
    every time you try to call result
    we only need unlock code

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    rsivan: sorry but i don't understand

    Do you mean you have cloned an AT&T sim from an original card in 1999 and has been using this cloned card since then? Also during the cloning process you have extracted the IMSI and Ki? And when you put in the clone sim you still get the message of "incorrect sim" or the iphone ask you to activate?

    And what do you mean by "did work but this recheck again for imsi and lock code
    every time you try to call result"? If it works why does it recheck again for the codes?

    Thanks

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    I did clone Italian card now I just readed IMSI from sim supplied with Iphone
    after I take a blank card with ICCID like 39111111111111111 (also registered with iAsign this ICCID)and make a position with this IMSI from sim supplied with iphone and a second with my italian data IMSI and KI and
    i start iphone with first he don't say any sim error try to find network at&t but when I
    switch to second number simlock message is show again

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    obzimmer: i'm little bit confused too .

    What i'm interested in, is to know what exactly needs to be on card to pass through "network lock check". I hope that it should be no big problem for me to make a card with right configuration, and for example register the AT&T's ICCID on HLR of my operator, but i really would like to know what's now known - which numbers are necesary to be set on cloned card, so iPhone will belive that's real AT&T's card.

    i'm not interested in making "multisim", i would like to make a working clone of card, but which i'll be able to register with my operator. With existing AT&T card it's not possible (AFAIK), because they don't know the Ki, so they can't verify this card as card of their own network. So what i need is to make card, which iPhone will take as a real card, but on other side, my operator can register this card in own HLR and then can verify this card on loging to network too - so with operator's Ki.

    It's definitly NOT very standard solution, but i realy would like to try, if it's possible at all.

    I hope that anyone can understand my basic english, which is of course poor too

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    sorry rsivan i still don't understand what you are talking about - please tell me if this is what you have done:

    1. You have obtained a blank card with ICCID of like 39111111111111111.
    2. You extracted the IMSI from the AT&T 3G card that comes with the iphone.
    3. You extracted the IMSI and Ki from your italian SIM card.
    4. You put in the AT&T IMSI and Italian carrier IMSI and Ki into your blank card with Position 1 as AT&T and Position 2 as your Italian carrier.

    When you start your phone, there's no sim card error as you are using the IMSI of AT&T, but when you switch to Position 2 (how do you switch it? there's no menu in iphone to do so!) the error occurs.

    MaLer: There are 3 variables here: IMSI, Ki and ICCID. And each carrier has their own set of the 3 variables. So let's say AT&T has IMSI-a, Ki-a and ICCID-a, and your own carrier in your country is IMSI-b, Ki-b and ICCID-b. It's the correct combination of the above that we need to find. For your information, I have done the following for my network in Australia:

    1. I have obtained a blank sim card (Silvercard).
    2. I have extracted the ICCID-a, IMSI-b and Ki-b.
    3. I put all theses data onto the silvercard.
    4. I used the iASign method to activate my iphone using ICCID-a.

    I put the cloned sim in my iphone and it says it is the incorrect sim. I then put the cloned sim into a normal unlocked phone and everything works ok (registered to my carrier network, call out, call in and data services).

    The question is which variables are needed to "fool" the iphone while at the same time permit the sim card to register to your carrier network. Any good idea, anyone?


 

 
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