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    ok first of all i want to apologie for asking something that may be obvious and has probably been mentioned hundreds of times.

    unfortunately after weaks of researching i am now even more confused and uncertain what to do.

    in short: i want to update my jailbroken and factory unlocked iphone 3G (not 3GS) (meaning it is an officialy unlocked iphone from apple). my current version is 3.1 jailbroken with blackrain.
    lately though more and more apps require at least 3.1.2 or even 3.1.3.

    now the problem is that in the forums i read that is not recommended to update with itunes since this would lead to the inability to jailbreak again.

    unfortunately the jailbreaking and unlocking scene has become so confusing with so many apps/methods to jailbreak your phone, and many of those no incompatible with each other that i sincerely i absolutely lost oversight of which one doing what under what conditions that must be met.

    so now i am dependent on you, on your help and PLEASE take a little time to explain me what i have to do. i would be most grateful to anyone who is inmclined to help me; Thank you.

    So, i have an iPhone 3G with version 3.1 jailbroken with blackrain.

    Question: how can i update my iphone to 3.1.3 (or at least 3.1.2) but with the ability to jailbreak it?

    pls, if there is someone that actually knows a solution to my problem PLEASE take those 2-3 minutes to help me in that matter. Thank you!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Polo View Post
    ok first of all i want to apologie for asking something that may be obvious and has probably been mentioned hundreds of times.

    unfortunately after weaks of researching i am now even more confused and uncertain what to do.

    in short: i want to update my jailbroken and factory unlocked iphone 3G (not 3GS) (meaning it is an officialy unlocked iphone from apple). my current version is 3.1 jailbroken with blackrain.
    lately though more and more apps require at least 3.1.2 or even 3.1.3.

    now the problem is that in the forums i read that is not recommended to update with itunes since this would lead to the inability to jailbreak again.

    unfortunately the jailbreaking and unlocking scene has become so confusing with so many apps/methods to jailbreak your phone, and many of those no incompatible with each other that i sincerely i absolutely lost oversight of which one doing what under what conditions that must be met.

    so now i am dependent on you, on your help and PLEASE take a little time to explain me what i have to do. i would be most grateful to anyone who is inmclined to help me; Thank you.

    So, i have an iPhone 3G with version 3.1 jailbroken with blackrain.

    Question: how can i update my iphone to 3.1.3 (or at least 3.1.2) but with the ability to jailbreak it?

    pls, if there is someone that actually knows a solution to my problem PLEASE take those 2-3 minutes to help me in that matter. Thank you!
    Okay your problem is actually simple. As you are factory unlocked - that makes things much simpler. Also as you are on the 3G that also makes things simpler.

    General Info
    You *can* generally upgrade/restore any official Apple OS update without much hassle. You don't risk losing unlock and you are safe with jailbreak.

    The only situation you might have a problem with is where the new OS is not able to be jailbroken yet. Then you can generally downgrade back to the previous OS (but you can't downgrade baseband - unless fuzzyband is supported on your 3G). Downgrades might *appear* to fail with a 1015 error but this is not a big issue and can be fixed with iRecovery (or iREB which is really just an unauthorised GUI version of iRecovery)

    It is this mis-matched baseband/OS combination that could present your only real problem - sometimes a new baseband crashes or does not work reliably on an older OS.

    3.1.3 Info
    You can update to 3.1.3 and re-jailbreak with redsn0w 0.9.2
    redsn0w 0.9.2 [iPhone Dev Team]
    iClarified - iPhone - How to Jailbreak Your iPhone 3G on OS 3.1.2, 3.1.3 Using RedSn0w (Windows)

    3.1.2
    exactly the same as 3.1.3 or you can use blackra1n (I recommend you use redsn0w unless you have problems getting into DFU - eg broken home/power button - then you should use blackra1n)

    You don't need to worry about SHSH (only for 3GS, iPad and latest iPod touches)
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    First of all thank you very much Olethros for responding to my request.

    the huge amount of jailbreaking solutions with the combination of the several current iphone firmwares being used on the different touch devices (ipod touch 1G 2G 3G and iphone 2G 3G 3GS) and some jailbreaking tools being compatible with only some firmwares and working just on specific hardware, the whole jailbreaking process has become so incredibly confusing and unclear that i just lost any oversight.

    so what you basically are saying is that i can normaly update my iphone thru itunes with 3.1.3 and then jailbreak it with redsnow?

    i ask because on the tutorial you linked they explicitly warn not to update to 3.1.3 when on 3.1.2. does this also count when on 3.1?

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    thanks for moving my topic to the correct category
    Last edited by Polo; 04-16-2010 at 05:33 PM. Reason: PS added

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polo View Post
    so what you basically are saying is that i can normaly update my iphone thru itunes with 3.1.3 and then jailbreak it with redsnow?

    i ask because on the tutorial you linked they explicitly warn not to update to 3.1.3 when on 3.1.2. does this also count when on 3.1?
    Yes you can either update via iTunes or restore to 3.1.3 and then jailbreak.

    There is very little advantage to 3.1.3 (only real advantage is that some apps require it) so you could just update to 3.1.2 and jailbreak also.

    The instructions at iClarified tell you to avoid updating to 3.1.3 because that breaks unofficial unlock. Many people don't realise this, they think unlock and jailbreak are the same thing.

    As you are factory unlocked (have you actually confirmed this at all by restoring your phone to 3.1 and checking it will activate with any carrier's sim card?) you won't have the unlock problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olethros View Post
    (have you actually confirmed this at all by restoring your phone to 3.1 and checking it will activate with any carrier's sim card?)
    yes, i bought the unlocked version at an italian applestore. and so far it has worked perfectly with all sims i've tried it with even after full restore (except the tethering isn't working, but that recitriction has been removed in 3.1.3 by apple which is another reason i want to update to 3.1.3)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Polo View Post
    yes, i bought the unlocked version at an italian applestore. and so far it has worked perfectly with all sims i've tried it with even after full restore (except the tethering isn't working, but that recitriction has been removed in 3.1.3 by apple which is another reason i want to update to 3.1.3)
    Then there is nothing stopping you updating or restoring to 3.1.3 and then jailbreaking with redsn0w.
    Please read the stickies & search forum before posting!
    How to report an iTunes restore/update fail in a useful manner
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    it actually worked

    thank you Olethros. I ow you a great deal of gratitude!

 

 

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