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    So, I have been out of the community for a while, as you can tell from my signature. I haven't had to JB/Unlock my 3g for a good long while now.

    I am going to be looking to put 4.1 on my 3G, and I need to be able to preserve my unlock.

    I do remember that I need a Mac to use PwnageTool 4.1 and I can't just use a .IPSW on my windows due to the "special" DFU mode that is required.

    What program should I be waiting for? I assume redsn0w, but redsn0w.com seems to be REALLY out of date. Where does one go for redsn0w news?
    1.1.4 iLiberty+ -> WinPwned -> BootNeuter -> Custom Pwned to 2.0 -> Upgrade to 2.1 -> QuickPwned
    -> Restored to 2.2.1 -> WinPwned -> Upgrade to 3.0 -> Redsnow'd



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesheron View Post
    So, I have been out of the community for a while, as you can tell from my signature. I haven't had to JB/Unlock my 3g for a good long while now.

    I am going to be looking to put 4.1 on my 3G, and I need to be able to preserve my unlock.

    I do remember that I need a Mac to use PwnageTool 4.1 and I can't just use a .IPSW on my windows due to the "special" DFU mode that is required.

    What program should I be waiting for? I assume redsn0w, but redsn0w.com seems to be REALLY out of date. Where does one go for redsn0w news?
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    Your only option for 4.1 is this if you want to keep your unlock. It is mac only and uses a very special DFU mode (geohot's DFU bootrom exploit). There is no windows equivalent for 4.1 - sn0wbreeze will NOT work.

    Redsn0w supports 4.1 but - it will destroy your unlock (until a new version of ultrasn0w is released - maybe that will be sometime in November)

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    not even the new sn0wbreeze coming out "soon after PwnageTool" (whenever that is)

    well, it has been a while since i attempted a hackint0sh install, maybe I will have better luck this time.
    1.1.4 iLiberty+ -> WinPwned -> BootNeuter -> Custom Pwned to 2.0 -> Upgrade to 2.1 -> QuickPwned
    -> Restored to 2.2.1 -> WinPwned -> Upgrade to 3.0 -> Redsnow'd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesheron View Post
    not even the new sn0wbreeze coming out "soon after PwnageTool" (whenever that is)

    well, it has been a while since i attempted a hackint0sh install, maybe I will have better luck this time.
    I just know that the current version of sn0wbreeze does NOT include geohot's exploit.

    There have been many threads explaining why sn0wbreeze is not recommended or supported here.

    Summary - the main guy behind sn0wbreeze (ih8sn0w) started off on the wrong foot. He's very young and has made quite a few mistakes/stumbles along the way. This has not made him popular. He does not have a good relationship with the iPhone Dev Team or the Chronic Dev Team. Aside from geohot (who mostly works alone) these are the main players in the jailbreak scene.

    Issues include -
    distributing Apple copyrighted files (warez) with sn0wbreeze.
    Use of code written by members from iPhone Dev Team or the Chronic Dev Team without crediting the original authors.
    Distribution of modified code licensed under GPL without also publishing the code changes.
    Bugs that screwed some early users iPhones

    These have all been fixed.

    Remaining issues:
    The latest exploit (discovered by geohot) has not been included in sn0wbreeze yet. This prevents all devices being jailbroken on 4.1

    There is a lot of back and forth between cydia developers (mostly those who offer apps that modify the way iOS works) and ih8sn0w about differences in the kernel patches that are installed by sn0wbreeze. These are apparently incomplete/different to the kernel patches installed by redsn0w, pwnagetool, greenpois0n and limera1n.

    This is a bit of an impossible situation for ih8sn0w, he can't simply copy the patches from pwnagetool - when that happens he gets criticised (again) for copying the work of the other teams.
    If he develops his own kernel patches, he gets criticised by cydia developers - because their apps break with sn0wbreeze jailbreak and they have to deal with complaints from users.

    For end users - we can't support ih8sn0w/sn0wbreeze - it looks like it will never be 100% in sync with the rest of the jailbreak world and many user problems are resolved simply by switching to another jailbreak.
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    bummer.

    So it comes down to he needs to write a patch that both isnt copied and works with cydia. I just wish cydia would get a bit of an overhaul as well. Waiting 10m to load up on my phone is rather annoying. I wish Rock didn't go offline. That app was always much faster and I never had a problem with bad installs. One time my phone crashed while Cydia was "reloading" and I has to fix a "bricked" phone. I say "bricked" cause now a days bricking a phone is nothing like when Ziphone was around. Man am i glad those days are over.

    I was about to download a premade 4.1 from a more or less trusted source and then read about the special DFU mode. (that and I didn't want his custom boot logos) It's a shame we can't get this DFU mode thing in a stand-a-lone application. That would be enough to take care of us windows folks.
    1.1.4 iLiberty+ -> WinPwned -> BootNeuter -> Custom Pwned to 2.0 -> Upgrade to 2.1 -> QuickPwned
    -> Restored to 2.2.1 -> WinPwned -> Upgrade to 3.0 -> Redsnow'd


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    To be clear, sn0wbreeze works with Cydia, but not with some of the more popular tweaks that can be installed from within Cydia.

    For example, infinidock, infinifolders (both made by chpwn who was involved in making jailbreakme.com - the jailbreak for iOS 4.0.x) and other types of tweaks that extend the base iOS features have been reported to be partly incompatible with sn0wbreeze.
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    Either way, incompatabilites are bad I think we can all agree. And I would just ask my friend to let me use his mac, but that would handicap me if I ever have to fix it and he isn't available.
    1.1.4 iLiberty+ -> WinPwned -> BootNeuter -> Custom Pwned to 2.0 -> Upgrade to 2.1 -> QuickPwned
    -> Restored to 2.2.1 -> WinPwned -> Upgrade to 3.0 -> Redsnow'd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesheron View Post
    Either way, incompatabilites are bad I think we can all agree. And I would just ask my friend to let me use his mac, but that would handicap me if I ever have to fix it and he isn't available.
    Yes.. the one disadvantage of this new DFU mode exploit is that it seems like it needs to be used each time you want to restore.

    You are a bit luckier in that the 3G is also vulnerable to the Pwnage 2.0 exploit, this is what sn0wbreeze currently uses to jailbreak the 3G. This is also a bootrom level exploit - so it can't be patched out by Apple on the 3G iPhone.

    The disadvantage with the Pwnage 2.0 exploit is that the whole boot chain needs to be patched to allow the iPhone to boot normally when jailbroken, this is more intrusive than the approach used in the new pwnagetool 4.1.

    The advantages are verbose boot and boot logos. Plus the ability to restore "custom IPSW" onto an already pwned 3G without needing to first re-pwn.

    The advantage of the new pwnagetool 4.1 approach is that the boot chain is untouched (up until the kernel), this means that devices that require SHSH to restore in DFU mode can be restored and then jailbroken all via DFU.

    Disadvantages:
    No boot logos or verbose boot are supported.

    Need to reload the exploit each time you want to restore and jailbreak. That means re-running pwnagetool's special DFU mode each time.

    Apple might be able to block the kernel exploit used to make this jailbreak work. They can't block the DFU level part of the exploit, but without a way to break into the kernel, we are back to patching the whole boot chain (and that means newer iOS versions might not be untethered for the 3GS new bootrom and 3rd gen iPod touch). Supposedly this is being worked on and a solution may have been found. Need to take a wait and see approach with this to see how Apple tries to fix this on their side.
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    starting to make me wish i could afford Att service, but my 10 year old legacy tmobile account is literally a third of the price, and even though i don't get 3g speeds. 5 dollar internet is also hard to pass up.

    ah well...guess i'm stuck with 3.1.3 for a while longer.
    1.1.4 iLiberty+ -> WinPwned -> BootNeuter -> Custom Pwned to 2.0 -> Upgrade to 2.1 -> QuickPwned
    -> Restored to 2.2.1 -> WinPwned -> Upgrade to 3.0 -> Redsnow'd

 

 

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