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    ok, but i thought itunes restore bootloader to version 3.8???


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    Quote Originally Posted by iDarbert View Post
    Why should it be changed? Pwning is just the trick you have to do with your Mac (and in the future PC) to alter the bootloader for the first time, it's the only operation you do with the computer.
    Neutering happens directly on the iPhone (in fact you can even neuter without pwning first if you upload the app through SSH and run it as root).
    exactly. and thats why iPwner is nothing else then BootNeuter, just done with the computer.

    ok, we can split hairs and say pwning is the name for bootneutering via computer, but that's not the point. the point is that it has been unclear for me and many others what iPwner does.

    if i got nothing wrong from reading here and there: http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/show...46&postcount=4
    (sorry for double posting with this thread here!)

    you can VIRGINIZE your phone to OOTB status simply by restoring with original apple firmware!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    ok, but i thought itunes restore bootloader to version 3.8???
    this will be the next question. which bootloader will be flashed to the phone when restoring with official apple firmware?

    but since when does itunes flash bootloaders

    maybe someone can clear everything up and just tell how pwnage tool works by explainig what iphone software is altered by pwning and neutering and flashing and in which order and so on. why is it so easy to upgrade bootloader from 3.9 to 4.6 now? new exploit found in 3.9?
    Last edited by qwertzui; 04-03-2008 at 09:22 PM.

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    I think, iPwner just copy/installs Neuter to the iPhone, since it runs after the firmware is loaded into the iPhone, so iPwner doesnt "neuter" the iPhone..

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    -EDIT-

    erased by me
    Last edited by qwertzui; 04-03-2008 at 09:40 PM.


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    Maybe this would be better with some clarification from the dev team. Would be interested in knowning the mechanics of this. Not every little detail. But an idea of what is doing what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    ok, but i thought itunes restore bootloader to version 3.8???
    if you want 3.8bl then use 3.9fb and restore to either 1.1.1 or 1.0.2........

    EDit: 1.1.1 and 1.0.0 thanks for catching me on that Z00L
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertzui View Post
    this will be the next question. which bootloader will be flashed to the phone when restoring with official apple firmware?

    but since when does itunes flash bootloaders

    maybe someone can clear everything up and just tell how pwnage tool works by explainig what iphone software is altered by pwning and neutering and flashing and in which order and so on. why is it so easy to upgrade bootloader from 3.9 to 4.6 now? new exploit found in 3.9?
    Itunes flashes the baseband bootloader if the bootloader is fakeblanked (i.e. itunes sees it as being blanked) and if there is a baseband bootloader file in the ipsw.

    As with why it is so easy now, well the bootloader altered by the pwnage tool is the PHONE bootloader not the baseband bootloader, which is what you are referring to when you say bootloader 3.9 or 4.6, and so by altering the phone bootloader to allow unsigned code etc. now the baseband bootloader can be reflashed to any version as the checks have been removed.

    And so i am guessing itunes does flash the phone bootloader if it has been modified, but it doesn't flash the baseband bootloader (only in special circumstances- FB bootloader + ipsw with included bootloader files). So this is how restoring to an unmodified apple ipsw undoes the pwning process.

    this is just what i have learnt so far, correct me if im wrong,

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    Quote Originally Posted by )law( View Post
    if you want 3.8bl then use 3.9fb and restore to either 1.1.1 or 1.0.2........
    Correction...1.1.1 or 1.0.0


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    When you click the "iPwner" button in PwnageTool, your main s5l8900 bootloader gets pwned. To undo this, use iTunes to restore to a Apple ipsw.

    When you neuter using BootNeuter, your S-Gold radio bootloader gets "pwned". To undo this, run BootNeuter again and turn off all options (and pick 3.9 or 4.6 depending on your preference).

    Two different CPUs, two different tools. But both the s5l8900 pwnage and S-Gold pwnage are 100% reversible.
    Last edited by MuscleNerd; 04-04-2008 at 03:22 AM.


 

 
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