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    Dev team has already well detailled how they do with this exploit!
    So, what now???? Apple already know how they have done this.
    What for now ? waiting 2.0 then after 2.1 then after 2.2.... like tom and jerry project ?????
    I do not undersatand, devteam benefit from the community, receive firmware(ex:the1.2 one), dump(ex:BL4.6) etc from other people. But they are themselve difficulty with sharing things!
    We, end users, have alway to wait the final solution from other people (geohot, zibri, nate true,....)
    We only benefit from the desagrement within the devteam......
    Without Zibri (that I do not like), nate true, were would be the endusers like most of us now (alway on 1.1.1???????).
    Anounce, announce and till announce... Powder in eyes... Sorry.
    But, we are in a democratic world where people decide to share or not.....
    Maybe, we have again to wait that someone from within the devteam leak this new project for us...
    Since the old anysim, the devteam has no really give us a tool (made by the devteam). It always must come from outside the devteam or desagrement from them, funny.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lush78 View Post
    they will wait until firmware 2.0 is released... there is no point in compromising the exploit that is used when all current firmwares can be activated, jailbroken, and unlocked... it will be well worth the wait...
    Do you have any quote from the dev team, or any other good reason to believe this?

    Again, if you had read the page where the Dev team announced this, you'd know that they have posted full details of the exploit -- so Apple knows what it is already. There's absolutely no need to wait for any release. So unless you can give some meaningful reason to believe otherwise, I think we may assume they are just finalizing the tools and will release them as soon as they are ready.
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    As I wrote in my previous post, they probably wait that someone steal the poject and published it and takes credit for it as it happened already in the past :-) :-)
    they loved to be stollen and mystery :-)
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    @ rajeevsharma8888 from what i understand you can be sure of the fact that there will be no pwned firmware image released.
    instead a tool will be released that will let you make pwned firmware.
    why? it is illegal to distribute any apple software without apple's consent.

    @lolof - if you read the dev-teams release you will understand why this is "mother of all exploits" ; and you will also see why this hole is if not impossible then very difficult/risky for apple to fix.

    as for why did they make the info public -
    the dev team is a bunch of ethical hackers, as opposed to crack/keygen/serial pirates.
    it is there moral if not legal obligation to detail the exploit to give apple a fair chance to fix the hole.
    and if i'm not wrong it also provides them some legal protection against lawsuites

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    talk talk talk
    Maybe the Dev's would give is some info when tere are PLANING to release it
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    >We, end users, have alway to wait the final solution from other people (geohot, >zibri, nate true,....)
    >We only benefit from the desagrement within the devteam......

    I Agree 100% ! The problem is just it. In this forum there is only end user. Th Big Boss not share nothing during the development step. Is very little person not great. The great people sharing the work with the community. Only GeoHot sharing on blog with more information about the work.

    This is not are community.
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    Guys, I did not want to start any flaming sessions against anybody. These guys are for sure very good hackers and I fully respect that. They also, as I mentionned in my post, do not HAVE TO release anything. But if you go and read other threads in that forum (typically the ones where devteam members verbal fights with zibri lol) you will see that they seem to love and keep whatever they find for themselves .... It is very sad to see that indeed all last devteam releases where made by others or former members (like zibri, geohot, ...)

    Waiting for the next firmware to be released does not make any sence ... they will ALWAYS be a next firmware adding cool features ... that's just the way Apple does it exactly for this reason : keep an advantage over the 'unlocked iphones community' lets say.

    In fact I will correct myself : the devteam are a bunch of very talented software developers but no hackers. A hacker is someone who loves challenges. A real hacker is always publishing his work and not seeking any money for this (even often no public recognition). It is just for the fun and the pleasure to know that you are better than any developer of the company you attack

    Ok, now you can flame me if you feel to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashmodai View Post
    It is very sad to see that indeed all last devteam releases where made by others or former members (like zibri, geohot, ...)
    Have to correct you there: what Geohot released was not a Dev team release; they had no part in it, he found the unlock by himself.

    But I share your observation that the dev team is remarkably uncommunicative about release dates.
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    @fallenczar

    You wrote:

    as for why did they make the info public -
    the dev team is a bunch of ethical hackers, as opposed to crack/keygen/serial pirates.
    it is there moral if not legal obligation to detail the exploit to give apple a fair chance to fix the hole.
    and if i'm not wrong it also provides them some legal protection against lawsuites
    I hope you are joking. All people who follows the forum perfectly knows for exemple that the soft upgrade was an alternative to a full jailbreak system (non hybride one).
    They alreday have a solution for a true jailbreak but they give us instead the soft upgrade to preserve the exploit (for the true jailbreak) on the next firmware. Remember ??????
    So, now telling that they could probably give a chance at apple to close the hole publishing the powned note is a big joke... It was never the case in the past and I am sure that they do not want to give chance at apple to fix the exploit.
    Knowing that this exploit is almost impossible to fix (in Iphone 1, surely fixed in the future new comming iphone II :-) ), they probably want attention from apple as other people already tried, who knows, maybe cells this exploit to apple. Receive money to keep silence and not realising things, have job or other things, I do not know..... I only see this as for many months nothing is coming from the devteam himself. It is strange. Here I hope I am wrong with this. The last things they have done is the 3.9fakeblank BL, but it was mainly done to stop zibri, it is the feeling I had reading the forum. But was and is great things....
    But I agree with all people, devteam have done and do great job, and have many helped people, but maybe not the good one. They have probably many helped Nate, Zibri and other guys. But finally, the end users like I am, are more helped by gehoto and the desagrement results from the devteam...... It is a pity but it is the reallity of the iphone scene.
    Maybe, again someoneelse will appear with a pwned like hack before devteam realise to public, would be funny to see the same story as before again.... They could again lose credits and donations as it is the case for now............

    For me, it is also funny to see that member of devteam can write in forum to ask us who has already the 1.2 beta/2.0 firmware, but cannot give themselve approximative information about realising date, difficulty they have, or whatever, in fact sharing..... It is one way direction for now :-)
    Last edited by lolof; 03-23-2008 at 08:14 AM.
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    Please realize that the dual-boot jailbreak method was released by the Dev Team on March 12 -- not even two weeks ago. And it was released even though the ramdisk method is currently exploitable. And dual-boot jailbreak survives 1.2.0 beta, as opposed to the ramdisk method. And people are starting to use dual-boot in more automated packages.

    NerveGas does a good job explaining exactly what each step is doing. And the wiki also has a log of an actual session during which the jailbreak is performed.

    http://iphone-dev.org/s5l8900:dualboot
    Last edited by MuscleNerd; 03-23-2008 at 10:37 AM.


 

 

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