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    Default [Problem] 2G, Pwnage 2.0.1 - blank (dark) screen, will not restore

    Hello everyone

    I have found this forum hugely useful in the past as a passive lurker, but on this occasion I can't find any solution to the problem(s) I now have. I would really appreciate any advice, or direction to a thread I may have missed.

    My iPhone is a 2G: I recently upgraded/unlocked from 1.1.3 to 2.0.1 using Pwnage, seemingly with no problems - at first. But now there are two problems.

    Last week the phone began behaving unusually. Occasionally, and randomly, a white screen would appear when I tried to wake the phone (instead of the activate-slider). I could return the phone to sleep by pressing the power button, and the phone would usually work ok on a second attempt to wake it.

    But now the screen remains dark no matter what I do. Yet the phone itself seems active: by guessing where the activate-slider is, I can turn the phone on (it 'clicks'), and then pressing the power button will put it to sleep again (another click). And switching the sound toggle to off produces the expected 'silent' vibration.

    The second problem, though, is that I cannot restore the phone via iTunes, no matter what I try. I am using iTunes 8: I have attempted to restore with a custom 2.1 (Pwnage: -> error 1015) and with Apple's own 1.1.4 ( -> error 5) and 2.1 ( -> error 1). Now the phone seems stuck in restore mode (or at least iTunes thinks so - because the screen is blank it's a little hard to tell).

    I would be VERY grateful for any advice ...

    Many thanks indeed,

    JW



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    Quote Originally Posted by passerem View Post
    Hello everyone

    I have found this forum hugely useful in the past as a passive lurker, but on this occasion I can't find any solution to the problem(s) I now have. I would really appreciate any advice, or direction to a thread I may have missed.

    My iPhone is a 2G: I recently upgraded/unlocked from 1.1.3 to 2.0.1 using Pwnage, seemingly with no problems - at first. But now there are two problems.

    Last week the phone began behaving unusually. Occasionally, and randomly, a white screen would appear when I tried to wake the phone (instead of the activate-slider). I could return the phone to sleep by pressing the power button, and the phone would usually work ok on a second attempt to wake it.

    But now the screen remains dark no matter what I do. Yet the phone itself seems active: by guessing where the activate-slider is, I can turn the phone on (it 'clicks'), and then pressing the power button will put it to sleep again (another click). And switching the sound toggle to off produces the expected 'silent' vibration.

    The second problem, though, is that I cannot restore the phone via iTunes, no matter what I try. I am using iTunes 8: I have attempted to restore with a custom 2.1 (Pwnage: -> error 1015) and with Apple's own 1.1.4 ( -> error 5) and 2.1 ( -> error 1). Now the phone seems stuck in restore mode (or at least iTunes thinks so - because the screen is blank it's a little hard to tell).

    I would be VERY grateful for any advice ...

    Many thanks indeed,

    JW
    Hmm, strange. I have never heared this one. I would suggest trying to rule out that this is hardware related. Will be a bit tricky acuse your screen is black, but should work.

    Assuming you have iTunes 8 installed.
    You think, the iPhone is stuck in Recovery mode where it normally should display the usb cable&itunes logo or Steve (if pwnaged, your iPhone). In this case when iPhone and Mac are connected, iTunes should see an iPhone in recovery mode.

    Is this the case?
    If so - while iPhone and Mac are connected and iTunes running - hold Home and Start/Sleep until the iPhone disappears in iTunes - it should be shut down then. Release both buttons.

    Enter DFU mode
    Quit iTunes, iPhone and Mac still connected. On the iPhone hold home and start/sleep for 10 seconds (I usually count 100, 200, 300, 400,... to meet the ten secs kind of exactly). After 10 seconds let go of start/sleep but keep holding home. Keep holding home until iTunes starts up and opend an allert telling you it found an iphone in recpvery/restore mode. Let go of home. The iPhone should be in DFU mode then.

    Upgrade to apple stock firmware
    Click ok in the alert window and hit "Restore" in iTunes. The iPhone should be restored to Apple firmware 2.1. If working at the end of the process the display should be on. The iPhone is "de-pwnaged" then but still unlocked (see your carrier on top left). You cant use it, cause it is not activated and not jailbroken. Use Quickpwn 1.1 (Mac) then to activate/jailbreak then.

    If it is not hardware related, the iPhone should be working, screen on, unlocked at 2.1.
    If so, on first connect with iTunes dont choose the option to "restore data from a backup", choose "setup as a new Iphone" instead, after that sync as usual. Restore from backup might bring back pref files that lead to poblems.

    let me know if this works for you
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    Thanks very much, volkspost, for your detailed response.

    This may be relevant - I know there is a difference between 'recovery mode' and 'DFU mode' (even if I'm not sure what the difference is!) - at the moment, when I connect the phone, iTunes recognises a phone in 'recovery mode'. But - when I use Pwnage to enter DFU, if I am successful (not always) - that is, when Pwnage tells me I am in DFU - iTunes will start up as expected, but then will not actually 'see' the phone (and iTunes seems to begin to start up about a second before I get to DFU mode). This has made me think that I am usually in 'recovery mode' (when iTunes *can* see the phone), but if I manage to get to DFU, then iTunes *can't* see the phone ... ?

    I did as you suggested a couple of times: iTunes behaves as you describe, and I hit 'restore & update'. The process goes through restoring and validating the iPhone software, and begins to restore the iPhone firmware. But always at this point, I get an unknown error (1015), telling me that this iPhone could not be restored.

    Interestingly, the restore process is very different depending in which IPSW I try to use - always an error, unfortunately, but a different error each time. Trying to restore to a custom 2.1 'Pwnage' IPSW, for instance, results in an error very soon in the process.

    Does any of this information help you? Thank again - your assistance is hugely appreciated!

    JW

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    Quote Originally Posted by passerem View Post
    This may be relevant - I know there is a difference between 'recovery mode' and 'DFU mode' (even if I'm not sure what the difference is!) - at the moment, when I connect the phone, iTunes recognises a phone in 'recovery mode'. But - when I use Pwnage to enter DFU, if I am successful (not always) - that is, when Pwnage tells me I am in DFU - iTunes will start up as expected, but then will not actually 'see' the phone (and iTunes seems to begin to start up about a second before I get to DFU mode). This has made me think that I am usually in 'recovery mode' (when iTunes *can* see the phone), but if I manage to get to DFU, then iTunes *can't* see the phone ... ?
    Both modes can be used when restoring to a firmware. We often differenciate simple restore/recovery (iTunes logo & USB cable or "Steve") and DFU mode (screen black). IN DFU mode iTunes has less control about what you are doing to the iPhone e.g. DFU mode has to be used when you want to downgrade firmware, simple restore wont do. Same for a situation where an iPhone has to be pwnaged the very first time. DFU mode is needed to pwnage it, after that we can restore to the custom firmware. Once this is done e.g. you DFU mode restored to custom fw 2.0.2 and want to restore to a custom fw 2.1 you have to use simple restore mode.

    PwnageTool has a built-in helper to get the iPhone into DFU mode. Helper means the counter and text on what to do next. You can always get an iPhone into DFU mode manually without PwnageTool. Thats what i wanted you to do.
    First make sure the iPhone is shut down but connected to the Mac. iTunes is quit, same is PwnageTool. Then hold home and start/sleep for 10 seconds and release only start/sleep then, keep holding home. Keep holding home until iTunes starts up and finds an iPhone in recovery mode. On a working iPhone the iPhone's screen is stillö black - the iPhone is in DFU mode. Then just hit restore in iTunes and it should work.
    Thats what i wanted you to do.

    iTunes does show the same dialog when beeing in simple restore/recovery mode and when beeing in DFU mode!!!

    I did as you suggested a couple of times: iTunes behaves as you describe, and I hit 'restore & update'. The process goes through restoring and validating the iPhone software, and begins to restore the iPhone firmware. But always at this point, I get an unknown error (1015), telling me that this iPhone could not be restored.
    You are using iTunes 8, right and just hit "Restore" not option-click restore and select the custom firmware. I wanted to make sure iTunes will try to upgrade to latest firmware stock 2.1

    Interestingly, the restore process is very different depending in which IPSW I try to use - always an error, unfortunately, but a different error each time. Trying to restore to a custom 2.1 'Pwnage' IPSW, for instance, results in an error very soon in the process.
    Seeing the error soon on a custom firmware file may lead to the idea the custom firmware is corrupt or - cause the iPhone is already pwnaged - you are trying DFU restore and would have to use simple restore/recovery.

    In both cases it is important that the iPhone is shut down properly before entering simple restore/recovery or DFU.
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    thanks again volkspost!

    Yes, I am using iTunes 8, and I was not option-clicking, just doing the regular restore. Unfortunately the error was still there!

    I have been playing a bit more, and managed to make sure the phone was off. A problem seems to be that when I do as you suggest - to enter DFU manually, with the phone connected and iTunes shutdown - the computer does not recognise the phone when it enters the DFU mode.

    I have now used iLiberty to confirm for me the state of the phone - it can see the phone in DFU state, but iTunes can't. iTunes can only see the phone when it is simply 'on', or in recovery mode.

    One new thing now is that when I get the phone into 'normal' mode (judging by the sounds, and by iLiberty, since I can't see the screen), iTunes now displays a warning that my SIM card is not supported (my SIM is Vodaphone UK). I'm not sure if this is a good or bad development, but it is certainly new!

    Any thoughts?

    Many thanks for your time, yet again.

    JW


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    Quote Originally Posted by passerem View Post
    thanks again volkspost!

    Yes, I am using iTunes 8, and I was not option-clicking, just doing the regular restore. Unfortunately the error was still there!

    I have been playing a bit more, and managed to make sure the phone was off. A problem seems to be that when I do as you suggest - to enter DFU manually, with the phone connected and iTunes shutdown - the computer does not recognise the phone when it enters the DFU mode.

    I have now used iLiberty to confirm for me the state of the phone - it can see the phone in DFU state, but iTunes can't. iTunes can only see the phone when it is simply 'on', or in recovery mode.

    One new thing now is that when I get the phone into 'normal' mode (judging by the sounds, and by iLiberty, since I can't see the screen), iTunes now displays a warning that my SIM card is not supported (my SIM is Vodaphone UK). I'm not sure if this is a good or bad development, but it is certainly new!

    Any thoughts?

    Many thanks for your time, yet again.

    JW

    You'll see this message cause the iPhone seems to be at a stock firmware locked, so this behavior is expected. The iPhone is out of recovery/DFU and iTunes cant detect a patner carrier's simcard for activation. did you downgrade to 1.1.4, cause I dont think iLiberty will kick any 2.x iPhone out of DFU or recovery mode??

    I am kind of out of ideas why iTunes refuses to see the iPhone when it is in DFU mode.

    Two things you may try, now at running firmware, probably 1.1.4. You have to shut down the iPhone. I know it is tricky cause of no-screen.
    Connect iPhone and Mac, let iTunes 8 be running, iTunes should see the iPhone with the message, the simcard is not supported.
    Hold start/sleep for about 5 seconds then release the button. You remember slide to shut off (red slider). Try to make it. If you are successful the iPhone should disappear from iTunes. Disconnect iPhone and Mac. On the iPhone hold home button and keep holding while you re-connect the iPhone to your Mac. Keep holding until iTunes recognizes an iPhone in (simple) recovery mode.
    Try to restore to apple firmware 2.1 by simply clicking Restore.

    If this is going to throw errors againg: Do you have any other Mac or Windows PC available where you could just test if you can restore to apple FW 2.1 - just a regular restore?
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    hi again,

    Alas, still no luck. I managed to get my Mac to recognise the phone in recovery mode, but the restore still throws up an error (1015) at the stage of restoring the firmware.

    I tried a different computer (also a Mac), which recognised the phone in DFU mode and began a normal restore to 2.1, but I ended up with the same error (1015) during the stage of restoring the firmware.

    I don't suppose anyone has any further thoughts?

    best wishes, and thanks again for all your help

    JW

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    AFAIK, error 1015 signifies that the restore was successful. error 1015 probably occurs coz baseband was not restored.
    So your phone seems to be in the unactivated state now.
    Seems like a hardware problem which is preventing the LCD from displaying anything.
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