Discuss [2.0.2] Good news - Slowness caused by software! at the PwnageTool - Hackint0sh.org; Hi all,
The post may sound sarcastic, but this is a serious cause of good ...
[2.0.2] Good news - Slowness caused by software!
The post may sound sarcastic, but this is a serious cause of good news to those Cydia/Pwnage users who fear their "unsupported" phone is slow only because it is unsupported. I've done many tests now, and can confirm that 2.0.x has many slowness bugs in it. That's why 2.1 is focused on stability, not on new features.
For those who care, here's my setup.
- iPhone 2G: 3.9 bootloader, currently on 1.1.4 & AT&T, jailbroken. Was on TMobile (Tzones), was on 2.0.2
- iPhone 2G: 3.9 bootloader. Currently on 2.0.2 & TMobile (Tzones). Pwn'd w/o Cydia
- iPhone 3G: 2.0.2 OTB. Completely legit, never pwn'd or anything
iPhone #2 is my wife's, so I don't play with it much. iPhone #3 was purchased for me by my work, so I now share a SIM with #3 and #1.
The problem I face is general slowness, but that's hard to measure. So my measure is the "super slow keyboard" experienced when typing SMS messages. I can replicate this 100% by listening to a 64 kbs / stereo / 44.1 khz audiobook. Pausing the audiobook still replicates this, stopping and playing a song usually fixes this but not always. However, this indicates a bug in audiobook playback, so I decided not to test this method.
So my measure for whether the 100% legit iPhone 3G has the same bugs as a Pwn'd w/ Cydia iPhone 2G was to use it (without using known slowness triggers) and see if the super slow keyboard strikes.
It does. Super slow keyboard is not caused by outdated firmware (I tested on 2.0.2), nor by Cydia, any jailbroken apps, or by PwnageTool.
What about the lag? For example, when opening contacts, or notes? I experienced those too. Again, this is hard to quantify, but there are two times that indicate more problems than just SMS/keyboard:
- iPhone froze for ~10 seconds when I was deleting email.
- After using both iPhones for ~1 day, opening contacts on both #1 (1.1.4) and #3 (2.0.2) side by side, the #1 opened and scrolled the contacts almost immediately, whereas #3 opened then lagged.
This isn't enough to say PwnageTool/Cydia/SSH/LHC/Santa isn't to blame for anything, but it answers the question I was after: will a legit 3G iPhone fix the laginess I've been experiencing on 2.0.x? Answer: No. Question: will a legit 3G iPhone play audiobooks better than 2.0.x? Answer: No.
No reason to give up Cydia or PwnageTool or Tzones in my opinion.
1.1.4 still quick and solid.
Nice report, lets put our hope in the up coming 2.1 firmware. but don't trust whole.
The 2.x is no longer smooth and stable like 1.x
Thanks for that. Makes me feel a little better after continually experiencing slowness in the SMS app.
2.1 is far more stable. Hadn't had to reboot the device since restoring to it. If only apple preinstalled this version when they debuted the iPhone 3G, sales would've been astronomical.
Having said that, it still isn't 1.1.4. But then again, I didn't have as many apps installed when I was on 1.1.4. Man... I love the iPhone!
Mind you to say if this stable 2.1 you refers to, is an iTouch, or got you an lucky and early access to 2.1 iPhone OS?
Originally Posted by spaceman81
Anyway, indeed good news.
but i always knew it wasn't the hardware issue, because the actual CPU/GPU spec of both generation of iPhone and ipod Touch are identical.
when Apple upgrades its RAM and processor, that's when people should upgrade from original iPhone
Core2Quad q6600 overclocked
@ 3.4Ghz cooled by Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme // 8GB
Corsair XMS2 RAM // Abit iP35 Pro // BFG GTX260 Maxcore 896MB
// Samsung 64GB SSD + WD Raptor 74GB + 1TB Black + 1TB Green // Corsair Hx620w // Antec p182 //
Samsung T240 24inch Monitor // Logitech G5 // My iPhone:
8GB Pwned at 3.0 with working MMS
I never thought it was a hardware issue. I was wondering if 2.0.x had problems with Pwnage. And there have been many threads about Cydia (really BSD) causing the problems. I think those mostly talked about when Cydia and 2.0 were new.
So the test was really Pwn'd vs non-Pwn'd, which I could never do until I had a legit phone.
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