hey guys just pointing out some advances being made on the iphone 1.1.1 they achieved read write access to the file tree and have been able to pull apps out. if similarities exist between both platforms then perhaps we could implement a similar process to gain access to the touch's file tree and perhaps copy and paste over some basic iphone apps like a decent ical, notes, etc... check it out see what happens. http://www.tuaw.com/2007/10/05/liveb...ne-1-1-1-hack/ good luck im counting on you guys fr0stbitten