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    In the case of a new Iphone with factory 3.0.1, what is the best solution?

    - Jailbreak and unlock with what is ready today or wait for the next solutions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sunripe View Post
    In the case of a new Iphone with factory 3.0.1, what is the best solution?

    - Jailbreak and unlock with what is ready today or wait for the next solutions.
    Thats really up to you, redsn0w will do the JB on 3.0.1 firmware fine for now.

    My factory unlocked 3GS is still on 3.0.1 because Im waiting to see how things will work with the up & coming JB & also how things go with this tethering issue we have.
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    Thank you dtube!

    That's exactly what I've been trying to figure out. I'm relieved to hear this.

    So, to confirm:
    - If I have my iBSS/iBEC plus Purplera1n ECID files
    - If stay on 3.0.1 with JB/unlock until new Pwnage is released
    - If I upgrade to 3.1 with new Pwnage (when released) and stay JB/unlocked
    --> I will have the ability to downgrade to 3.0.1 again using new Pwnage and stay JB/unlocked?

    I was worried that I wouldn't be able to restore back to 3.0.1 once I was JB/unlocked on 3.1. I want to keep my ability to tether that I have on 3.0.1.

    Quote Originally Posted by dtube View Post
    @decagon,
    I'm fortunate to have my 3GS on file with Cydia.
    As long as your phone is not on 3.1, you are ok.

    Say that you have your 3GS phone running 3.0/3.0.1 today, jailbroken. You don't have your ecid/ibec/ibss/shsh. If something happens to the phone tomorrow and it requires a restore. You will be able to restore to 3.0 or hacked 3.1 ipsw (hacked 3.1 ipsw = 3.1 without BB update) once Dev Team release the tool.

    Everyone should wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decagon View Post
    Thank you dtube!

    That's exactly what I've been trying to figure out. I'm relieved to hear this.

    So, to confirm:
    - If I have my iBSS/iBEC plus Purplera1n ECID files
    - If stay on 3.0.1 with JB/unlock until new Pwnage is released
    - If I upgrade to 3.1 with new Pwnage (when released) and stay JB/unlocked
    --> I will have the ability to downgrade to 3.0.1 again using new Pwnage and stay JB/unlocked?

    I was worried that I wouldn't be able to restore back to 3.0.1 once I was JB/unlocked on 3.1. I want to keep my ability to tether that I have on 3.0.1.
    Decagon,
    I think you are a bit confused, let me try to clarify a few things for you.

    - if you have ibss/ibec/ecid+shsh or purplerain file - you will be able to restore back to "original apple firmware 3.0" via the use of proper tool.

    - if you don't have those file, but your phone 3gs is currently jailbroken+unlock. You will always be able to restore the phone using customized / "hacked" firmware 3.0 or upgrade to customized "hacked" firmware 3.1 and so on. The way you can do this is via the use of pwnageTool.

    At this point, no one should be even thinking about restoring the phone with original firmware 3.1 (3.0 ok if you have those keys above). Moving forward, everyone should be using customized firmware !!! - And take advantage of Cydia's ability to record/store your device ecid+shsh
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    Thanks, I think I understand you now.

    I always planned to use redsn0w. So just to confirm, these are the steps I will follow:

    1. Backup using iTunes 8
    2. Change host settings to point to Saurik's servers. NOTE: I have never connected to his servers before
    3. Restore phone using downloaded 3.0.1
    4. Jailbreak using redsn0w
    5. restore backup

    Am I right?

    Quote Originally Posted by dtube View Post
    - if you are on firmware 3.0 or 3.0.1, you can jailbreak using redsn0w. Stay on those firmware and DO NOT upgrade YET.

    - They key mentioned here is the ecid/shsh signed with firmware 3.0 that would allow you to downgrade to 3.0 if needed.

    - if you JB your phone now, Cydia will be on the phone. Later on, when you run it, it will give you the option to save your ecid/shsh with firmware 3.1

    Like i said, you have factory unlocked phone, you are relatively safe but always exercise caution and common sense. BTW, firmware 3.1 broke tethering even on a factory unlocked phone.


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    lol- dtube

    You are so right. I was confused. That's the danger when techno-challenged me gets so much new information in one day.

    I get it now. Thank you so much. It's great news that we'll have both options.


    Quote Originally Posted by dtube View Post
    Decagon,
    I think you are a bit confused, let me try to clarify a few things for you.

    - if you have ibss/ibec/ecid+shsh or purplerain file - you will be able to restore back to "original apple firmware 3.0" via the use of proper tool.

    - if you don't have those file, but your phone 3gs is currently jailbroken+unlock. You will always be able to restore the phone using customized / "hacked" firmware 3.0 or upgrade to customized "hacked" firmware 3.1 and so on. The way you can do this is via the use of pwnageTool.

    At this point, no one should be even thinking about restoring the phone with original firmware 3.1 (3.0 ok if you have those keys above). Moving forward, everyone should be using customized firmware !!! - And take advantage of Cydia's ability to record/store your device ecid+shsh

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    My friend just developed a fault on his 3.0.1 iphone 3gs, he returned it to apple and they have replaced it with one already at firmware 3.1, am i right to assume that he has no way of getting his ibec and ibss files from the iphone now, thus having absolultley no way of jailbreaking?


    thanks for your time

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    jailbreak for iphone 3gs with stock firmware 3.1 will probably be available in the near future.
    Getting ibec/ibss and ecid+shsh will still be possible (only with firmware 3.1).

    However, unlock for the baseband 5.xx.xx that comes with firmware 3.1 is not possible at the moment and may be never
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtube View Post
    jailbreak for iphone 3gs with stock firmware 3.1 will probably be available in the near future.
    Getting ibec/ibss and ecid+shsh will still be possible (only with firmware 3.1).

    However, unlock for the baseband 5.xx.xx that comes with firmware 3.1 is not possible at the moment and may be never
    So your saying the iphone 3gs users with 3.1 software may never have a jailbreak out ?

    Jesh...how disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sincitysklyine View Post
    So your saying the iphone 3gs users with 3.1 software may never have a jailbreak out ?

    Jesh...how disappointing.
    Read again.
    Jailbreak will be available.
    Unlock may not be possible anytime soon.
    jailbreak and unlock are different things

    Please stop asking the same question in various threads .... Thanks
    Last edited by dtube; 10-02-2009 at 06:37 AM.
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