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Its so out of order!!!
Let me find out Jesus Dias (from Gizmodo) post. He summarizes pretty much everything I want to say.
Oh yeah, here it is:
Gizmodo - Whiners of the World: Shut Up About the iPhone 3GS' Upgrade Price - apple iphone 3gs
So you bought your heavily subsidised iPhone 3G with a two-year contract and now you are upset because AT&T wants to charge you full price for the new iPhone 3GS, right? Well, stop whining. You have no arguments.
I have the iPhone 3G—by the way, I paid an extra $500 deposit on top of the price tag because I didn't have US credit history back then—and I don't qualify for a subsidised upgrade. I have to finish my contract first, then renew to qualify for the subsidy. If I was in Spain or anywhere else in the world, it will be the same.
But I am not whining. Not because I am a fanboy—I hate AT&T with a passion—but because there are no logical arguments to support the whining.
Sure, it sucks to be me and pay almost-full price for the iPhone 3GS, but that's how life is. You don't get a reduced price on your new notebook just because you bought the old model a year ago. You don't get reduced price on cars, or anything else.
The fact is that the $199/$299 price tag for the iPhone is the result of AT&T's—or any other carrier, since the situation is the same all around the world—subsidy. Without subsidy—and tying you to a new two year contract—the iPhone is not different from something like the Nokia N97, which is $700 unlocked. Or the contract-free, unsubsidized iPhone 3G itself: The iPhone 3G costs $770 and $877 unlocked for the 8 and 16GB versions.
I hate to defend AT&T or any other carrier. I hate their guts. All of them. Their monthly fees are highway robbery, yes. Their roaming charges are unjustified and just outrageous. And while you—and I—may think that you are entitled to a discount because of those fees, that doesn't make much sense. I'm afraid that, this time, they are right. And on top of that, your carrier is actually giving you a discount already. Tiny, but compared to the full price of the unsubsidized iPhone, it's there.
You better get used to this too. These smart phones are really computers. And as applications get more and more complex—especially games—you will want to have the latest and fastest, whether is iPhone, Android, Palm, Windows Mobile, or Blackberry. Just like you upgrade your notebook or desktop computer or video game console.
With all of those brands, the situation will be exactly the same. Without a subsidy, you will keep paying full price for these tiny and wonderful machines. All of them. And that price will stay at around $600 for a long time to come. It happened before, and it's not going to change.
In other words: Drive through, people. Nothing to see here. If you are not happy, get a Pre. And when Pre 2 appears, jump back to the iPhone. If you must have something new because your ADD has got you tired of last year technology, then get Android, Pre, or whatever. But don't expect any company to give you discounted hardware when the next generation of Smartypantsphone X comes.
Or better yet: Don't buy a new phone. Who cares about "new." Does your iPhone 3G work now? Yes? Then get the free iPhone OS 3.0 and enjoy the speed boost from optimization and the rest of the apps. In this economy, you will do yourself a favor. This is exactly what I am doing.
In the meantime, do the rest of the world a favor and stop whining about what you are entitled to. We don't live in your pretty me me me ME world.
ok ok calm down. I'm just saying i don't really care about all of this subsidising crap.
I don't care if the network (o2 in my case) is losing out. Sure its bad for them, but its their own fault.
Take my iphone 3G back, i don't wan't to keep it. I understand, i'm still paying for the phone.
So how about they let me have a new phone at say a £100-150 premium, start my contract again from 18 months & take my old phone back and sell it as reconditioned. They wouldnt even make a loss!
Lol, so they gave you a heavily subsidised phone already, which you no longer want pay for. They wipe out £210 of revenue from your remaining contract. Give you a £500 - £600 phone for £150 and you let them have your old phone that they might get £100 after they've paid to have it re-conditioned by Apple.
This is not making a loss?!!!
Anyway enjoy the world of debt collection agencies and credit black lists.
See my reply when someone else asked about this.
Wouldn't it be nice if Apple just sold the phone to people who are prepared to buy one unsubsidised in any country. I'd buy one but I'm not going to sign up to a contract to have one.
They do. They call them Pay as you Go handsets.
you cant just stop payint, well you can but you will end up paying in the end matey with your credit history and ya wont be able to get another phone on contract then also you will have to pay once the debt companies start callin. lol.
o2 wanted £750 to upgrade me to the 3GS. That was to pay off the remainder of my contact 18-month contract, and buy the new phone at about £150-200 on contract again. Yeah right!
Do what I did, buy a pay as you go one, put your contract sim in it, then sell your current iphone on ebay. Total upgrade cost for me worked out around £150 that way. The guy in the o2 shop even agreed that's the best way to upgrade. hah.
"all this subsidizing crap" is why people can even get the iPhone 3GS for a reasonable price in the first place. "all this subsidizing crap" is why the 32GB iPhone 3GS costs so little. If Apple didn't get a subsidy from the carrier, they would be losing a huge amount of money for each phone sold and you can guarantee that prices would go up. Perhaps you remember the 1st generation iPhone that sold for $600 here in the states. That was unsubsidized.
You obviously just don't get it. O2 owes you nothing, they gave you a great subsidy for your 3G and now you're pissed that they won't bend over backwards and take a loss so you can get a great discount on a 3GS?
And what a great solution to this problem: just stop paying for your bill. Yeah, that's great, good luck with that.