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    Default Great. iPhone 3GS headphone jack.

    Only Apple! They had to screw everyone over with the recessed headphone jack in the first iPhone. Now, with the 3GS, it breaks all older headphones! Even the buttons on the original iPhone headphones won't work! (That's the moral of this story; read on for details.)

    I first noticed this problem with my V-Moda Vibe Duo's mic and button-they wouldn't work. Sometimes clicking the button would bring up voice control.

    Then I began noticing that plugging in other headphones would sometimes pop up voice control when they were plugged in.

    So I figured my iPhone was faulty, and went to the Apple Store in Pittsburgh right after my Army drills on Sunday. I described the problem, they attempted to fix it to no avail. It was jailbroken and they knew, so they restored it (which I had also tried). Still no luck.

    They said they don't normally help out customers with jailbroken phones, but they happily would give me an exception for being in the Army. So they gave me a brand new phone!

    I was very happy with their service! So I left and tried my V-Moda's clicker: nothing. Same with my 2G iPhone headphones. Apparently, the only headphones that work with the 3GS are the ones that come with it, and the ones made newly for it.

    I feel very bad about the fact that they gave me a replacement for a perfectly working phone (it didn't have a single scratch!), but I'm enraged at Apple. Why do they concentrate so hard on the details in some ways, and then screw you over with the simplest things?!

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    Apple has extended the headphone capabilities with the volume up/down clicker. This means they have included a chip inside the new headphones, this chip has to be licensed from apple for inclusion in 3rd party headphones. Some manufacturers have announced products which obviously include this new chip. None that I know of have shipped yet.

    These new headphones actually were introduced for the previous generation shuffle, with no controls on the shuffle. I have tested that the new headphones work in older iPhones (the main clicker only) but obviously not the other way around. The older phones lack the same chip for decoding the new button codes.

    Apple has faced some criticism for this (especially for placing a licensing barrier in the way of third party headphone manufacturers)

    The reality is without switching away from the standard minijack connector (which would be even more unpopular) adding more than one button to headphones requires a small chip to encode/decode the signals being sent from each button.

    I am also incredibly impressed you have managed to not destroy your old headphones, my v-moda headphones lasted me 3 months, which is about the same as I usually got from apple headphones. The only consolation was they sounded much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olethros View Post
    Apple has extended the headphone capabilities with the volume up/down clicker. This means they have included a chip inside the new headphones, this chip has to be licensed from apple for inclusion in 3rd party headphones. Some manufacturers have announced products which obviously include this new chip. None that I know of have shipped yet.

    These new headphones actually were introduced for the previous generation shuffle, with no controls on the shuffle. I have tested that the new headphones work in older iPhones (the main clicker only) but obviously not the other way around. The older phones lack the same chip for decoding the new button codes.

    Apple has faced some criticism for this (especially for placing a licensing barrier in the way of third party headphone manufacturers)

    The reality is without switching away from the standard minijack connector (which would be even more unpopular) adding more than one button to headphones requires a small chip to encode/decode the signals being sent from each button.

    I am also incredibly impressed you have managed to not destroy your old headphones, my v-moda headphones lasted me 3 months, which is about the same as I usually got from apple headphones. The only consolation was they sounded much better.
    Well thank you very much for your detailed reply. That almost resolves all questions that I still had, except why does the new function break all old functionality of the mic and clicker, and why does it break it only on some? For example, the NE-7M earphones still function as a play-pause and mic. Some V-Moda Vibe Duo headsets still work as well! So where does it change?!

    I do love my V-Moda's; but I think it's just luck that they've lasted. Nevertheless, I hear V-Moda's support is terrific so I'm not even worried if they would break. I'd just send them in

 

 

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