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With a full on Media ...
iPhones Launch in india. - Reactions.
Well we finally had the iphone formally launched in India.
With a full on Media Circus.
Full on Adds Blitz.
So its out and the reviews have started coming in.
Here is one of the best reviews on our local CNN Chanell.
How to approach reviewing the iphone ?
He starts off by saying. Hey this is the Jesus Phone its does what no other phone has ever done. So lets start with a score of 5 out of 5 starts.
But taking it from there lets subtract some stars for very serious issues. He doesnt even get into no cut - paste, cant change the battrey etc.
But here are the issues he does mention.
1. Minus 1/2 star for the fact there is no 3G in India to start with. And we are talking a wait of a few years to come. The Govt is still talking about auctioning 3G space.
2. Minus one full star for the price and lock in. We are paying close to 800$ for an iphone. Rs 31,000/- for 8GB and Rs 38,000/- for 16 GB. Ok so no subsidy. But even after this. You are locked in to your provider. They dont even offer you a discounted usage scheme. This makes zero sence to anybody.
3. 1/4th mark for no GPS. (What GPS it has can hardly be called GPS) when Nokia phones are out there that can give you turn by turn voice directions. Hands free for 200$. Only 1/4th mark. When asked can we get 3rd party apps that may help us here. He says apples does not let 3rd party apps access its GPS function.
4. 1/2 mark cut for no A2DP Blue Tooth support. Your paying 800$ for a phone and you have to use wired ear buds or hold the phone up to use it. Even if you buy their head set its a mono. You make it a ipod for music and dont give it A2DP suport absurd.
5. 1/4th mark cut for the activation circus. Where you have to use itunes, have to download a 60 MB download, have to have and hand over your credit card to apple just to start using the phone.
So in total. The iPhone is given 2.5 out of 5 stars. And a clear dont buy not worth it.
So its still selling why ?
Well India is into status and class in a big way. And owning a iphone is a pure and simple status symbol.
Most guys with an iphone myself included get it from the USA either off ebay or relatives.
In summary the iphone launch in India is a total failure. And with these circumstances picture is unlikely to improve.
Seems as someone hasn't understood what the iPhone is about.
And why should the iPhone be to blame for no 3G coverage in India?
Is Apple to blame for ridiculous prices of indian service providers?
And who needs a bulky BT Earpiece with no possibilty of stop/skip/shuffle?
Perhaps one should not list what it does not do as total failures, I think when I buy a phone I look at what I want to do and if the phone meets the feature set I buy it. I don't harp on about why a particular phone doesn't do what I want it to do. To be honest, I hate bluetooth, I think people who walk around talking to fresh air look like tools, and I couldnt be asked to buy batteries and all that, so that didn't bother me. I also didn't realise grown men used MMS, I thought my 16 year old sister was the only one etc etc. I like it because of some great applications and an easy delivery system, I love the browser to death, the email looks great, the maps are really useful etc etc.
Google for Motorola (hell yeah, Motorola) S9. Stereo Bluetooth headset with volume up/down, play/pause, next, previous and answer buttons.
Originally Posted by steelcut
Apple *is* lagging behind in many many small items.
As far as I can tell, the response to the iphone in India has been lukewarm at best! People were expecting the pricing to be in the range of 12-16k INR, but 31k INR with a carrier lock-in, no SMS forwarding, no BT file transfer, tie-in with itunes and activation shit, no GPS and absence of 3G network in India......definitely spell FAIL for iphone 3G in India.
The much hyped midnight launches (a-la Apple launch on the 5th Ave Store) were total damp squibs...and out of the handful of people who did turn up, most were there just for a look-see.
And to make matters worse, Vodafone execs have gone on record saying they expect a steep price drop in the next few months...then who in their right minds would buy the iphone 3G now? Perhaps the few who want bragging rights...but I think the bragging rights actually belonged to the ones who have been using the 1st gen iphone for the better part of a year now!
Well the reviewer did start the review by saying this was the Jesus phone. And that was hard to rate this phone. So he gave it a 5 out of 5 to start with.
The guys like you and me who are there from the old 1G hand sets are just a bunch of cheap bastards. Who couldn't afford an official unit.
Only the guy with 3G are the ture cool ones. lol
You see it in their you still got that pice of crap look lol
Im personally hooked and totally enjoy playing with it all the time. Presently playing with Dynolicous.
Last edited by wnjunkie; 08-24-2008 at 08:46 PM.
First of all, the CNN Review was shitty yes.
Bluetooth file transfer?.. Really, only idiots on Nokia need that shit. Get your own stuff.
Bluetooth file transfer, just means ur pirating music/etc.
If you want to send some1 a picture you took, EMAIL it.
A2DP is missing is a big blow definately, but its not the end of the world. Most A2DP headphones suck in audio quality anyway.
Rather get the Etymotic HF2's and enjoy amazing audio quality.
The price drop, is definately expected, but dont think itll be to soon..
As you can see, in my sig, I have both a 2G and a 3G.
My gf is currently using my 3G, as yes, I dont see any point of me giving her my older phone. Its better show-off value for her as well.
Activation is really simple, and even a very dumb person, can do it.
Airtel are offering free EDGE for one year (worth around Rs.7200, but their EDGE sucks, and most of their towers dont even support it.)
Last edited by Ad1tya; 08-24-2008 at 10:28 PM.
iPhone is not being blamed but charging 3G prices for 2G service is being condemned.
Originally Posted by steelcut
Apple is the only one to be blamed. Both Airtel & Vodaphone have had no say in the pricing. Its been an Apple show all the way. Apple has dictated pricing and other service conditions. The carriers have indicated in their internal communication that they only have a 2.5% margin (I know as I have access). So, yes Apple is to blame.
Plus American principles of the cell phone market JUST don't work in India! Network locking & cell contracts is a joke. You can't enforce it. Not being able to use 3G (when available - guranteed from december 08) on the computer is another one! No one needs 3G on the go as much as at home. Except maybe corporates and believe me they have been 'advised' by their respective companies not to trade their blackberrys!
I agree that Indian carriers can't subsidize the phone. India has the lowest cell phone prices in the world. But to charge 4 times the promised amount is just ridiculous. (Remember Steve Jobs said $200 worldwide!) What's more insane is that I am pretty sure once the unlock is out it will be available in the grey market for a much lesser price.
(Incoming calls are free, costs Rs 1 (2cents) to make a national call and about Rs. 7 (17cents) a call to the US - which is going to be further reduced to Rs. 2 as VOIP has been approved for placing calls abroad for carriers!!)
I am not buying one. I already have 2 2Gs, one of which conked out and Apple didnt offer any support since it was bought in the US. Even for the new 3G iphones, Apple isn't coming out with the warranty terms and condition. No one knows who will service it or provide support. Apple care is banefully silent. This isn't an iPod. People can't stay without a phone for 3-7 business days!
Last edited by WhoElseButME; 08-24-2008 at 09:49 PM.
Actually I would have bought it if they had introduced the 2G at $399/$499. As would have many more people.
And how come Apple's GPS sucks so bad when compared to Nokia's navigator? I haven't tried the 3G, so I am just asking ;-)
A good read.
Also, Ive tried the GPS, it works perfectly.
It takes about 1 min to get your location perfect, but once it has it, it follows you perfectly.
I traveled about 50km, and it followed me almost every step of the way.
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