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    Thank you, LiTos, but I am referring to these apps as being stock apps, not apps for a jailbroken phone. It does not seem as if they will be stock apps on the 3G iPhone. Also, have you actually used the "Flash" viewer and the copy and paste app? I did once or twice, but not again, since it is a pain to run these apps. The Flash viewer is NOT a Flash viewer. It is an app that converts the Flash file so that it can be played using QuickTime. I want an app that you press the Flash item in Safari and it begins to run in Safari! Also, this Flash option does not run websites that have Flash content in them. The copy and paste "solution", although better than nothing, has much to be desired. IphoneBrowser is a great app as well, but I am talking about a file manager on the iPhone itself. While these are good apps, they are not great, and they are not fully integrated into the operating system. You seem to be an optimist, and that is fine, but these apps that you point out need a lot of work in order to run smoothly. Apple is supposed to be about simplicity. Also, if the 3G iPhone cannot be jailbroken, these apps will not work on it. There is a high probability that the 3G iPhone will be jailbroken, but there is always a chance that it will not be. In that case, the jailbroken iPhone apps will be worth little. I believe that the "Flash" app and the copy and paste app work through Safari without jailbreaking, so those two will work. Look, I am just asking for these features which I consider to be basic to be available on the iPhone when it is sold to us by Apple or AT&T. That's all.

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    that would be hell of a nice iphone. im sure most of the softare ones can be available as Apps. There IS a way to view flash (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0TIaLTOZHcw), there IS a copy & paste app made by one of the apple emplyees and there IS a file browser which can be used as a thumb drive. (http://iphonegap.com/2008/01/12/ipho...-apple-iphone/)
    Yes the ringtone thing could be a problem...maybe they'll let us do it in 3G. But thats pretty much all the major problems! With solutions!
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    BImmelicous, both of your comments have been less than useful or informative. You seem to be a great exaggerator (12000 threads about missing features and a $13000 iPhone). How old are you? 10 or 11 years old? If not, then grow up! With respect to your last comment, I have searched those other "11,999" threads, and I have not found ONE list that is anywhere as comprehensive as my list. I have been a member of this forum since July of 2007, and I have commenced very few new threads. When I have done so, it is because I believe that they can be useful and informative to others. I have been respectful to others, so please be respectful to me.

    I purchased my 8GB iPhone two days after the iPhone was released, and I purchased a 16GB iPhone about 6 months ago. So I actually own 2 iPhones. I have been following the hacking community since last summer, and I have seen how difficult it has been for the hackers and developers to make the iPhone into a more useful device than that which was provided to us by Apple. I joined this site last summer, and I have assisted A LOT of members who needed help with various problems. So I have a great amount of understanding as to what the iPhone needs. And I just want to see the iPhone become the best media and communications device. Also, I am listing missing features so that individuals who plan on purchsing the 3G iPhone can determine for themselves if these are deal breakers. My list goes beyond what most people would want, but this is a list of everything that I would want at this time, with the exception of some items such as 64GB flash memory, NFC sensor, and fingerprint sensor, all of which I would not expect until the end of 2009 or by mid 2010 due to the cost and the limited use of such features today.

    Also, if you don't want to read this thread, you can move on to the next one. I believe that I have added value by providing a comprehensive list of features relating to the 3G iPhone that does not exist elsewhere on this forum. Please move on if you do not wish to read any further.

    I had forgotten Pittwm's suggestion, but he/she is 100% correct. The new search feature will only work for Contacts. There is also a search feature within the iPod player. But there should be a Global search feature that will allow the user to choose where to search, and which will allow the user to search within the Calendar, SMS, MMS, e-mail, iPod, file system, etc. for a word or phrase. The search function within Contacts will be highly useful, but it will not be as great as it should be.

    I forgot another item which would be useful, and that is haptic feedback. It has been tested and will work on the iPhone. However, it will use up battery life. There could be an option to turn it on and off so that users will have a choice.


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    this is the 12000th thread ob "missing features"... please search and visit those threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandy1997 View Post
    Thank you, LiTos, but I am referring to these apps as being stock apps, not apps for a jailbroken phone. It does not seem as if they will be stock apps on the 3G iPhone. Also, have you actually used the "Flash" viewer and the copy and paste app? I did once or twice, but not again, since it is a pain to run these apps. The Flash viewer is NOT a Flash viewer. It is an app that converts the Flash file so that it can be played using QuickTime. I want an app that you press the Flash item in Safari and it begins to run in Safari! Also, this Flash option does not run websites that have Flash content in them. The copy and paste "solution", although better than nothing, has much to be desired. IphoneBrowser is a great app as well, but I am talking about a file manager on the iPhone itself. While these are good apps, they are not great, and they are not fully integrated into the operating system. You seem to be an optimist, and that is fine, but these apps that you point out need a lot of work in order to run smoothly. Apple is supposed to be about simplicity. Also, if the 3G iPhone cannot be jailbroken, these apps will not work on it. There is a high probability that the 3G iPhone will be jailbroken, but there is always a chance that it will not be. In that case, the jailbroken iPhone apps will be worth little. I believe that the "Flash" app and the copy and paste app work through Safari without jailbreaking, so those two will work. Look, I am just asking for these features which I consider to be basic to be available on the iPhone when it is sold to us by Apple or AT&T. That's all.
    i dont own an iphone so i havent used them.
    yes the apps arent good but theyre better than nothing. flash one is good for youtube vids - at least it can be done. Im not sure but i think i know of an unlocker that lets you access the file system on the iphone.
    These apps are useful, even though it takes a little pain in the ass, but because of them, iphone can do pretty much everything. not perfectly, but everything.

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    vandy1997, you forgot to mention the forklift Apple needs to have in the package too for us to be able to carry the "iphone vandy built" around... And I bet you $100 that if they DID include all the stuff you listed someone would STILL come up with a similar list of missing features...

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    LiTos, you are a good person. I hope that you are able to get a 3G iPhone. I will be getting one at some point in July. I already sold my 8GB iPhone, and I will only keep my 16GB iPhone (in case the jailbreaking cannot be performed on the 3G iPhone).

    Quote Originally Posted by LiTos View Post
    i dont own an iphone so i havent used them.
    yes the apps arent good but theyre better than nothing. flash one is good for youtube vids - at least it can be done. Im not sure but i think i know of an unlocker that lets you access the file system on the iphone.
    These apps are useful, even though it takes a little pain in the ass, but because of them, iphone can do pretty much everything. not perfectly, but everything.
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    me, maybe I did get a little bit carried away with my features list. Most of my suggestions are software suggestions, so those can be made without adding to the volume or weight of the iPhone. It would be funny to see the forklift that came with each iPhone box. No dock, but the new iPhone now comes with a forklift! You can go here to see a funny report by Stephen Colbert on the new Giant iPhone: http://www.comedycentral.com/colbert...videoId=173093 . I hope that you enjoy it! Maybe that will be the "iphone vandy built".

    I agree with your remark that we will always be demanding more "missing features" no matter what features Apple provides to us. I don't really care much about the features that require hardware changes. However, I hope that Apple implements those that require only software changes. And I don't expect them in July! I am going to purchse the 3G iPhone because I am sure that it will be better than the original iPhone (at least the 3G will be faster and the GPS should add a hardware feature that the original iPhone does not have). And I am sure that most of the software requests will be fulfilled by third party companies through the App Store. However, I still wish that Apple would provide that software itself. I believe that Apple will make a better product that is integrated better and runs more smoothly with the OS. And I would pay $100 more to have those software features added by Apple, since that's probably how much they will cost through the App Store. Then Apple would make that money itself (thereby increasing its revenues) and users would be satisfied since they would have a more intuitive and smoother app created by Apple. Perhaps the third party developers will create great apps - I hope so. My problem is that apps created for the jailbroken iPhones tend to be somewhat buggy and sometimes freeze up the phone. I would rather have these apps created by Apple since they would likely run with fewer bugs! That's all that I'm trying to say.


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    vandy1997, you forgot to mention the forklift Apple needs to have in the package too for us to be able to carry the "iphone vandy built" around... And I bet you $100 that if they DID include all the stuff you listed someone would STILL come up with a similar list of missing features...
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    Why don't you start producing pine(apple) vandiphone with tailor-trimmed features just for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandy1997 View Post
    LiTos, you are a good person. I hope that you are able to get a 3G iPhone. I will be getting one at some point in July. I already sold my 8GB iPhone, and I will only keep my 16GB iPhone (in case the jailbreaking cannot be performed on the 3G iPhone).
    Thanks, i'm gonna need some of that luck.

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    kashefcom, you made me laugh. I am sure that if Apple produced the iPhone with most of the features that I listed, it would sell a lot more iPhones, even if it charged $100 more (for the software features mostly). I wish I could get a vandiphone; unfortunately, I will have to purchase what Apple offers. I enjoy my 16GB jailbroken/unlocked iPhone, and my service is with AT&T. And I will continue to do so until I get a 16GB 3G iPhone in July. I don't think that I'll wait in line. I will wait one or two days after launch to avoid the craziness. That's what I did the last time, and it took me 5 minutes to make the purchase.


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    I'm liking this news regarding Flash: http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/06/....iphone.flash/ . Hopefully that will be an additional feature on the iPhone. However, it seems as if Apple hasn't included Adobe as a developer, as Adobe has not tested Flash on the iPhone itself.
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