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    Default [Advice] New bootloader on phones produced after 9th June?

    hi.anyone knows anything about this?and new bootloader means that unlocking community have to find new exploits on it,right?i wonder that 2nd generation iphones will be unlockable or not?any ideas ?



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    some rumors r saying that apple will sell 3g unlocked iphone
    and what i think is if the they r not selling it unlocked then there will be a new bootloader
    now remember abt 4.6 bootloader how long it took to find the exploits
    so i think the great dev team will find some way to unlock it but we dont know how long will it take//////

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    If you had bothered to check one of a FEW threads in this section before speculating away on new BL you would've seen it discussed in another thread...

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    everything is hackable, it just takes time. We are yet to find some kind of OS that is 100% closed and unhackable.

    • OTB 2.0 iPhones (the 3G ones) will have a new 5.x bootloader. this is to protect mobile companies from selling iPhones cheaper than another carrier selling iPhone, so that people can't buy them from another carrier during a sale, and then use it on another iPhone carrier. iPhone is no longer carrier exclusive, so I don't think the motivation is to keep it to one carrier in each country, more to protect the individual carriers in each country from being ripped off
    • It will be jailbreakable. Pwnage will not work any more as they will fix the appleimage2noraccess exploit. But there will be another way. Perhaps, dare I say it, Zibris rumoured jailbreaking tool for 2.0 might work. (which won't come out until the official release of 2.0, this might be because hes waiting for an idea to steal or hes just protecting it so he's the only person who can jailbreak an OTB 2.0 iPhone as pwnage will be dead) I guess he might want to get back on top like he was for a few weeks when he introduced ZiPhone
    • It will be unlockable, it will take a bloody long time though. But remember, we have (an especially gray, geohot, musclenerd and whole dev team) a much better knowledge of iPhone and how it works than a few months ago. So it might not take as long. But it might take longer. Who knows. Geohot actually developed a software unlock for the 4.6BL in 24hrs after setting his mind to it (he was pissed off at something at the time lol)


    All we need to do is wait and see what happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretmrx View Post
    everything is hackable, it just takes time. We are yet to find some kind of OS that is 100% closed and unhackable.

    • OTB 2.0 iPhones (the 3G ones) will have a new 5.x bootloader. this is to protect mobile companies from selling iPhones cheaper than another carrier selling iPhone, so that people can't buy them from another carrier during a sale, and then use it on another iPhone carrier. iPhone is no longer carrier exclusive, so I don't think the motivation is to keep it to one carrier in each country, more to protect the individual carriers in each country from being ripped off
    • It will be jailbreakable. Pwnage will not work any more as they will fix the appleimage2noraccess exploit. But there will be another way. Perhaps, dare I say it, Zibris rumoured jailbreaking tool for 2.0 might work. (which won't come out until the official release of 2.0, this might be because hes waiting for an idea to steal or hes just protecting it so he's the only person who can jailbreak an OTB 2.0 iPhone as pwnage will be dead) I guess he might want to get back on top like he was for a few weeks when he introduced ZiPhone
    • It will be unlockable, it will take a bloody long time though. But remember, we have (an especially gray, geohot, musclenerd and whole dev team) a much better knowledge of iPhone and how it works than a few months ago. So it might not take as long. But it might take longer. Who knows. Geohot actually developed a software unlock for the 4.6BL in 24hrs after setting his mind to it (he was pissed off at something at the time lol)


    All we need to do is wait and see what happens
    You write this as if it is a fact, when it is just your thoughts/speculations.

    In my opinion, you can ask as many questions about the next-gen iphone as you like, but no-one will be able to give you an answer, because it is not fucking released yet.

    Sigh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nazrm View Post
    ...no-one will be able to give you an answer...
    Call steve, he knows for sure

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    Nice summary, secretmrx! And speaking of being ripped off - take O2's promotion when they were selling unlockable phones for 169 pounds, roughly $340... They never got to make up for $200 (100 pounds) they slashed off the MSRP they were hoping to get back thru rate plans on a hell of a lot of iphones, but on the other hand they cleaned up inventories before the 3G pretty quick... Anyway..., yeah, I also think we'll see a new BL and probably factory-unlocked phones next month... And fingers crossed the rumor about the 3G coming up with no GPS module proves untrue (posted a link in the GPS thread)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nazrm View Post
    You write this as if it is a fact, when it is just your thoughts/speculations.

    In my opinion, you can ask as many questions about the next-gen iphone as you like, but no-one will be able to give you an answer, because it is not fucking released yet.

    Sigh.
    It is fact that there will be a new BL. There is a whole new SGOLD in the 3G iPhone. It is in the latest beta

    @me. cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretmrx View Post
    everything is hackable, it just takes time. We are yet to find some kind of OS that is 100% closed and unhackable.

    • OTB 2.0 iPhones (the 3G ones) will have a new 5.x bootloader. this is to protect mobile companies from selling iPhones cheaper than another carrier selling iPhone, so that people can't buy them from another carrier during a sale, and then use it on another iPhone carrier. iPhone is no longer carrier exclusive, so I don't think the motivation is to keep it to one carrier in each country, more to protect the individual carriers in each country from being ripped off

    • It will be jailbreakable. Pwnage will not work any more as they will fix the appleimage2noraccess exploit. But there will be another way. Perhaps, dare I say it, Zibris rumoured jailbreaking tool for 2.0 might work. (which won't come out until the official release of 2.0, this might be because hes waiting for an idea to steal or hes just protecting it so he's the only person who can jailbreak an OTB 2.0 iPhone as pwnage will be dead) I guess he might want to get back on top like he was for a few weeks when he introduced ZiPhone
    • It will be unlockable, it will take a bloody long time though. But remember, we have (an especially gray, geohot, musclenerd and whole dev team) a much better knowledge of iPhone and how it works than a few months ago. So it might not take as long. But it might take longer. Who knows. Geohot actually developed a software unlock for the 4.6BL in 24hrs after setting his mind to it (he was pissed off at something at the time lol)


    All we need to do is wait and see what happens
    i know this is a bit offtopic, sorry about that
    Nice list but still questions remain, for example will the "old" models also get a new bootloader ? (forced)
    Will pwnage still work on the older models you think ? (that is if the bootloader isn't upgraded)
    Original: iPhone US 1.0.2 OTB BL3.9 | firmware: 3.0

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    I don't think old models will get a new BB bootloader via fw upgrade from Apple. It's a risky process.

    If you go from 1.1.4 to 2.0, then yes, the OS bootloader will change.

    Will pwnage work on older model if bootloader is not upgraded ? - yes, this means you did not go to 2.0

    Remember, there are 2 bootloaders on the iphone. pwnage deals with OS bootloader and not BB bootloader.


 

 
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