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    Here's a youtube link in which geohot states under the DMCA, reverse engineering of cellphones are completely legal.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lrJA...eature=related

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    no, but selling them is however, for iphones anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random View Post
    no, but selling them is however, for iphones anyway...
    are you sure about that? Back that up with some facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random View Post
    no, but selling them is however, for iphones anyway...
    resale is not illegal but not permitted by apples terms of use/purchase


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    Quote Originally Posted by Random View Post
    no, but selling them is however, for iphones anyway...
    It is illegal to sell pirated DVD's on eBay, It is not illegal to sell Ulocked iPhones on eBay. There is even a US law that makes unlocking cells phones legal.

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    if you break their terms of service you simply "lose warranty service."

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    Default i dont mean selling unlocked iphones, i mean unlocking other peoples iphone

    i dont mean selling unlocked iphones, i mean unlocking other peoples iphone, is that legal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnd3344 View Post
    i dont mean selling unlocked iphones, i mean unlocking other peoples iphone, is that legal?
    Theres no difference really. Both are legal.

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    For those readers in Canada, there is a great article about this:
    http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1883/125/

    To quote:

    "In our world, we don't honour unlocked handsets," said Chris Langdon, Telus vice-president of Network Services. "Unlocking a cellphone is copyright infringement. When you buy a handset from a carrier, it has programming on the phone. It's a copyright of the manufacturer."

    The issue of locked vs. unlocked cellphones is an important one, particularly in light of the recent introduction of wireless number portability (which theoretically facilitates consumer movement between providers) and the possible introduction of anti-circumvention legislation that could indeed render unlocking a cellphone a matter of copyright infringement. At the moment, I think the Telus position is simply wrong. Leaving aside the fact that many cellphones are available unlocked (or unlocked by the carrier after the initial contract expires), I am not aware of anyone who has argued that conventional copyright law would prohibit unlocking a cellphone and Canada does not [yet] have anti-circumvention legislation.

    In the U.S. there was concern that unlocking a cellphone would violate the DMCA by constituting a circumvention of technological protection measure. Last fall, the U.S. Registrar of Copyright established a specific exception to permit users to unlock cellphones without fear of infringement. The exception covers:

    Computer programs in the form of firmware that enable wireless telephone handsets to connect to a wireless telephone communication network, when circumvention is accomplished for the sole purpose of lawfully connecting to a wireless telephone communication network.
    Basically, in North America (where we -barely- have consumer protection anymore; things are far better for consumers in Europe, for example) it's completely legal in every way to unlock a phone, use one on a network, or unlock a phone for others.

    That said, a carrier may REFUSE you service with an unlocked phone. Nothing specifically requires them to allow you on their network... but in the case of Rogers in Canada at least, their unofficial position seems to be "if it doesn't cause problems use whatever works".

    For example, the Rogers Rep who sold me my 500MB data plan ($80 - not cool) asked specifically if it was for an iPhone and had no opinion on weather i should or should not have the device. He just processed my order as if I had any Palm or Windows Mobile PDA, locked to their network or otherwise.

    Telus' position seems to be different, but they are a CDMA provider - so ultimately, who really cares?
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