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    Hi there,

    are there any known risks using SIM-Card-adapters like TurboSIM or StealthSIM like sniffing PIN or voice-data.
    Is this possible at all?
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    the only thing i heard but wasnt confirmed is that there might be roaming costs sometimes because your sim card is detected as a foreign simcard insied your homecountry....

    Perhaps someone havin a turbo sim in action for longer then just a few days and got his first invoice can tell us more...
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    I haven't heard anything about the roaming costs myself, but:

    - You need to cut your SIM card to make it work with Turbo or StealthSIM's. I like my iPhone, but honestly, phones get better all the time. I'm not gonna cut my SIM to make it fit just for one phone.

    - I don't know about the StealthSIM, but the TurboSIM is notoriously fragile. Push it in to hard and it breaks. So be careful.

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    yes the sim cutting is also the point that i dont like....
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    What? Can't you just go into your carrier's store and ask for a new SIM-card if you should mess one up? It's just plastic.


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    no in germany for example a new sim costs 25€
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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixftx View Post
    the only thing i heard but wasnt confirmed is that there might be roaming costs sometimes because your sim card is detected as a foreign simcard insied your homecountry....

    Perhaps someone havin a turbo sim in action for longer then just a few days and got his first invoice can tell us more...
    I believe if you cut its tiny part,it will work with any phone still,or, atleast thats what i ve read.

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    It works in any phone after the cut, so it's not a problem.

    The way TurboSIM and other similar devices work is by sending a "fake" ICCID to the phone during the initialization phase one, so that the phone only and not the network will be fooled by interpreting the SIM as being from AT&T (it can work also with O2-UK and T-Mobile-DE and maybe Orange-FR).

    So there is NO way a network will see the phone as a roaming phone. If the network assigns your phone your number, it's because it sees the correct identification. The possibility of the network seeing these phones as roaming devices is merely a urban legend.

    Also, SIM cards cost money anywhere but it's not a big deal. The real risk is breaking the pigback SIM such as the TurboSIM.

    I've never used or seen a SilverCard/GreeCard/SuperSIM, but I suspect they are a new SIM card as a whole (they clone the whole SIM), so it's not that complex. But I've heard it's more complex to setup and use.

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    No, I'm positively sure you would never have to pay for a sim card here in Sweden. I have picked up SIM-card when I have lost my cellphone or when it was stolen. In fact, most carriers will offer free Sim-card pre-loaded with something like 5€ as a marketing trick. You can easily get 20-30 of theses free SIM-cards at times but too me it's not worth the free calltime as you get a new number for each SIM-card.

    So if the carriers want money for giving you a new sim it's really bad service and a rip-off as they cost the carriers practicly nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiii View Post
    No, I'm positively sure you would never have to pay for a sim card here in Sweden. I have picked up SIM-card when I have lost my cellphone or when it was stolen. In fact, most carriers will offer free Sim-card pre-loaded with something like 5 as a marketing trick. You can easily get 20-30 of theses free SIM-cards at times but too me it's not worth the free calltime as you get a new number for each SIM-card.

    So if the carriers want money for giving you a new sim it's really bad service and a rip-off as they cost the carriers practicly nothing.
    Promotional SIM cards with a new number is not the point. What we are discussing is what carriers call a "recovery blank SIM card", that is used to "recover" your phone number in case of a SIM failure or if the phone was lost or stolen.

    My carrier will give a free SIM if the customer can prove that the phone was stolen (with a copy of the police report). They call it a courtesy recovery SIM. Otherwise they will charge around 5US$. It's not only the cost of the SIM, but the fee for activating it to your phone number, that may or not have a cost depending on each country cell phone regulations.


 

 
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