Originally Posted by wildonrio

An unlock method is looking pretty dismal as of now. I just got return labels for my 4 OOB 1.1.2 iPhones for a full refund and I suggest anyone else to do the same. Apple has extended their return policy for the holidays so even if it's been past 14 days you still have a shot.

Remember, if a software unlock becomes available, all you have to do is buy the iPhones again. No big deal.

It is not that easy when you live on the other side of the world. Besides, I'm definitely more optimistic then you are, as we've all seen what the dev Team and the others working on this are capable of. I think it is just a matter of time...of course the turbosim is an option, even if I'm not considering it now...let's just give the guys some credit (they sure deserve it) and see what happens ...this looks like something we have already seen with the past firmwares. This time is probably harder, but nothing is uncrackable. Of course if you bought them to resell and make some quick bucks, I see your point

Originally Posted by Jedi7

As long as 1.1.3 doesn't come with a new bootloader you should then be able to downgrade to 1.1.2 and perform the appropriate unlock once available.

Unfortunately not correct. You still won't be able to downgrade the 1.1.3 baseband without the secpack from a higher version. That means the waiting game begins anew for 1.1.3 buyers.

Apple seems to be on top of getting new FW phones into stores as soon as possible. That means the 1.1.2 supply will not be there precisely when you most need it.

If you bought phones within the past two weeks, I would strongly suggest that you hold onto them until just before New Year's when the holiday return policy expires.

Originally Posted by mashoutposse

Unfortunately not correct. You still won't be able to downgrade the 1.1.3 baseband without the secpack from a higher version. That means the waiting game begins anew for 1.1.3 buyers.

Apple seems to be on top of getting new FW phones into stores as soon as possible. That means the 1.1.2 supply will not be there precisely when you most need it.

If you bought phones within the past two weeks, I would strongly suggest that you hold onto them until just before New Year's when the holiday return policy expires.

You're assuming the baseband is updated as well...so really no one can be sure until they release the next update.

How can i go about avoiding the restocking fee????

Originally Posted by black_sedan

How can i go about avoiding the restocking fee????

Dont open the plastic.... or re-shrink wrap it EXACTLY like it came

Originally Posted by Jedi7

You're assuming the baseband is updated as well...so really no one can be sure until they release the next update.

...And if the baseband isn't updated, there will be no new secpack. If there is no new secpack, neither OOB 1.1.2 nor OOB 1.1.3 will be able to be unlocked.

If the baseband is changed, then OOB 1.1.2 can then be unlocked using the 1.1.3 secpack. OOB 1.1.3 users (and anyone who makes the mistake of upgrading) will have to wait for the secpack from 1.1.4.

Originally Posted by mashoutposse

...And if the baseband isn't updated, there will be no new secpack. If there is no new secpack, neither OOB 1.1.2 nor OOB 1.1.3 will be able to be unlocked.

If the baseband is changed, then OOB 1.1.2 can then be unlocked using the 1.1.3 secpack. OOB 1.1.3 users (and anyone who makes the mistake of upgrading) will have to wait for the secpack from 1.1.4.

...that's assuming no other unlock method is discovered =)

Originally Posted by SimplePanda

As discussed here and other places, the TurboSIM solution is easily broken by Apple in a 1.1.3 update.

Some were surprised that Apple allowed TurboSIM use to continue in 1.1.2. It's apparently trivial for them to detect the TurboSIM and lock the phone.

The nice part being that if they want to do that, they have to update the baseband, and thus provide a secpack for 1.1.2

I'm optimistic on the dev team, they can do it!

Plus if I decided to return my iPhone it would cost me A LOT of money and time, which I do not have.

I'm in Canada, so I have to drive to the US which will cost me like $60 on gas (I have a gas guzzling car), then go there pay the 10% restocking fee $40. So I just lost $100, so I just saved $300 by returning it. Also I was lucky I didn't get charged Canadian tax and duties which saved me $70.

When the unlock does come, I'm going to have to drive back, repurchase, and will probably get charged the tax and duties. Overall the iPhone would've cost me a good $700.

I thought of returning it, but losing roughly $100-$200 is not appealing. So for now I will use it as an iPod Touch, and wait till the unlock comes.

If an unlock does NOT come (I'm pretty sure it will though), I always have turboSIM.

Originally Posted by SimplePanda

Even better

Originally Posted by wildonrio

You quoted him wrong. It's "totaly simply".

Guys, realize that this is an international forum, and that not everyone speaks perfect american, eh i mean english. No need make fun of someone because of that.

I do realize what he said was wrong... but you could have just pointed that out...rather than, well, write what youve written. Again, just makes you look like an ass.