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    Default My take on IPSF

    I don't care how good IPSF unlocking solution is. Taking other people work and selling it to make a profit should be made illegal aside from being unethical. IPSF lost all my respect and I will exploit IPSF in any which way I can. They will never get a single penny from me!
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    I'm not saying what IPSF did is right, though it's not like they took everything the dev team did and is selling it. As far as I know, they need the jailbreak in order to make their package work, but did they actually take anything else? I thought they used a completely different method of unlocking

    If that's the case, then it's no different then the thousands of people who have illegal copies of Windows XP and create software on their computer, run a web site, etc etc. They're using something they got for free to turn around and make a buck, but no one seems to really care about that, do they?

    As I said though, I'm not saying what they did/do is right or wrong, just trying to open your eyes a little

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    Your loyalty and fealty to the dev team is duly noted. It is very true that IPSF overly relies on the work of the dev team in order for their unlock to work. But it WAS significant that IPSF's software solution survived the 1.1.1 upgrade, and that contribution to human knowledge established pretty quickly what the 1.1.1 upgrade was doing and what it wasn't doing, and helped isolate and focus on why other unlocking methods were having problems, and what would probably have to be done to get an unlock solution developed by the dev team.

    I continue to advocate that everyone support the dev team and its efforts regardless of whether you are using IPSF, because it is through their work (and also with the help of this community as a whole) that we keep making fast progress in the cat vs. mouse vs. cat vs. mouse game. Go cat (or go mouse, whatever)!

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    i really don't see the issue here.

    IPSF is a different a unlocking solution. Yes, they are dependent on the Dev Teams jailbreaking, and many are so animate about IPSF, that hey should be giving the Dev team compensation, gratitude, etc.

    i really don't care about that issue. my point is that IPSF is an OPTION.
    i personally like options. options are good. love your options.
    if you hate IPSF, don't support 'em. that simple.

    i think by now, a lot of the IPSF haters out there would just let it be. people will do what they want with their money.

    is it immoral, stupid, who cares.

    (options!)


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    Keep aside IPSF Atleast coz of them we know that 1.1.1 is fully hackable. And Dev Team should keep focus on reverse engg what ipsf is actually doing and find a way to get the bricked iphones to be fully functional


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    Quote Originally Posted by nilsnaik View Post
    Keep aside IPSF Atleast coz of them we know that 1.1.1 is fully hackable. And Dev Team should keep focus on reverse engg what ipsf is actually doing and find a way to get the bricked iphones to be fully functional
    nilsnaik, what IPSF has done is simple to understand. How they came upon the information necessary to do so is not so simple to understand. IPSF's unlock reprograms the EEPROM and then overlays the BB with a clean copy that is told by the EEPROM during the flash "unlocked." What they've done is not a crack or a hack. They've just used the exact procedures that Apple/AT&T/Etc will use to permanently unlock your phone once you arrive at the end of your contract. How they knew how to do this is a subject for another thread perhaps.

    Thus, based upon the above, even a bricked phone is easy to bring back to life.

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    To summarize what snowbird has mentioned. The dev team will never be able to come up with the same exact solution as IPSF. Exception is of course if they could get the same source of unlock generator as IPSF

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    always paid for your downloaded software and music huh?? yeah right!!

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    I have two phones, one unlocked easily using the dev teams published methods. The other, out of the box (AT+CLCK="PN",0,"00000000") always came back with an ERROR. AT+XSIMSTATE=1 revealed that the number of unlocks attempts on the phone has been exceeded. After consulting with the dev guys on IRC the result was basically "wait for a fix." I believe there will be a fix, but I don't believe in waiting... The IPSF solution worked - only after I corrupted and forced iTunes to re-flash the baseband firmware. Was it worth $50.00, considering the time I fought with anysim, scripts, minicom, on and on - and I am no noob... it was money well spent.

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    I can upload your IMEI for $30


 

 
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