Hello All,

wonderful information and group work here!!! But this has also caused great confusion!

Some kind soul, please help me out....

I used some of the very first manual proceedures to unlock my 1.0.2 iPhone. The instructions are found here:

http://iphone.unlock.no/old2.htm

I believe the method is pre-anySIM and it used iUnlock.

I believe that method is one of those that hacked the firmware so it will brick my iPhone if I update to 1.1.1. I guess I need to wait for a viriginizer.

Currently I can switch between my T-Mobile (USA) sim and my TIM (Italy) sim without having to do anything as they both work just fine. The phone is both unlocked and activated on both sims.

I am worried that it will no longer be the case if I upgrade to 1.1.1 and use any of the current hacks.

IPSF says that: "Please note that on subsequent change of sim card the phone will need to be activated. The phone remains unlocked for any sim card but will need to be activated to pair the sim with the OS."

Link:

http://www.iphonesimfree.com/cgi-bin...ne.pl?page=faq

Of course I would like to avoid having to do this every time I want to switch because I will be switching at the airport where I can't go through activation!

On the other hand, I read somewhere that the iPhone Dev Team's method pretty much has the same issue, and the hack has to be run with the sim you want to use. The posts said that 1.0.2 has a "facctory activation" which allowed for any sim to be used, while the new method does not.

I am soooo confused.

Here are my questions:

1) Do I have to virginize my iPhone before I attempt to unlock 1.1.1?

2) If yes, which method do I use? There are dozens on the web!

3) What do I have to look for to tell whether a virginizing method actually does what it is supposed to? In other words what needs to be done to virginize a phone? Reflash baseband, firmware, and nvram?

4) What unlocker do I use to have an unlocked and always activated iPhone so I can use both TIM and Tmobile? Please don't tell me I have to stick to 1.0.2 or that I have to buy two iPhones...

5) Can I unlock using IPSF and then permanently activate using some other method?


Thanks to all those who will try to answer. Please try not to mess up this thread with irrelevant posts. I would like to keep it short and to the point so that all the people asking my same questions can get the info they need with little confusion.

thanks!

This is a great thread, we need to make a sticky out of it because I'm sure 100s of other users who unlcoked with iUnlock want to upgrade as well.

Originally Posted by iTelefono

Hello All,

wonderful information and group work here!!! But this has also caused great confusion!

Some kind soul, please help me out....

I used some of the very first manual proceedures to unlock my 1.0.2 iPhone. The instructions are found here:

http://iphone.unlock.no/old2.htm

I believe the method is pre-anySIM and it used iUnlock.

I believe that method is one of those that hacked the firmware so it will brick my iPhone if I update to 1.1.1. I guess I need to wait for a viriginizer.

Currently I can switch between my T-Mobile (USA) sim and my TIM (Italy) sim without having to do anything as they both work just fine. The phone is both unlocked and activated on both sims.

I am worried that it will no longer be the case if I upgrade to 1.1.1 and use any of the current hacks.

IPSF says that: "Please note that on subsequent change of sim card the phone will need to be activated. The phone remains unlocked for any sim card but will need to be activated to pair the sim with the OS."

Link:

http://www.iphonesimfree.com/cgi-bin...ne.pl?page=faq

Of course I would like to avoid having to do this every time I want to switch because I will be switching at the airport where I can't go through activation!

On the other hand, I read somewhere that the iPhone Dev Team's method pretty much has the same issue, and the hack has to be run with the sim you want to use. The posts said that 1.0.2 has a "facctory activation" which allowed for any sim to be used, while the new method does not.

I am soooo confused.

Here are my questions:

1) Do I have to virginize my iPhone before I attempt to unlock 1.1.1?

2) If yes, which method do I use? There are dozens on the web!

3) What do I have to look for to tell whether a virginizing method actually does what it is supposed to? In other words what needs to be done to virginize a phone? Reflash baseband, firmware, and nvram?

4) What unlocker do I use to have an unlocked and always activated iPhone so I can use both TIM and Tmobile? Please don't tell me I have to stick to 1.0.2 or that I have to buy two iPhones...

5) Can I unlock using IPSF and then permanently activate using some other method?


Thanks to all those who will try to answer. Please try not to mess up this thread with irrelevant posts. I would like to keep it short and to the point so that all the people asking my same questions can get the info they need with little confusion.

thanks!

there is no method that you can use to virginize your 1.0.2 iunlocke'd phone..
one is supposed to be just around the corner
what you can do is reflash your baseband and then run IPSF (but would you do that or wait a week for a free solution)

activation is kinda flakey..i have my iphone in factory activated state...your milage may vary

fallenczar, are you running firmware 1.1.1? Have you tested it with multiple sim cards? No further activation or unlocking necessary when you switch? If so, what method did you use as that is what I want too.

Originally Posted by iTelefono

fallenczar, are you running firmware 1.1.1? Have you tested it with multiple sim cards? No further activation or unlocking necessary when you switch? If so, what method did you use as that is what I want too.

vomers excellent guide (ultimate guide) it has been sticked
Read my post on page no 21 post 203 and 208

Originally Posted by fallenczar

vomers excellent guide (ultimate guide) it has been sticked
Read my post on page no 21 post 203 and 208

Hi, I have spent hours reading the other thread and am only half way. I read your posts and found them very interesting as I too want to be able to switch between any sim without activation. My options are to achieve the factory activation or to activate both sim cards (backing up the new activation file) and then place both files in the lockdown folder. Of course I prefer the factory activation...

My problem right now is that I purchased a 1.0.0 phone, updated it to 1.0.2, and then used iUnlock method to unlock it. I now want to update it to 1.1.1. The guide you pointed me to says that you can only do it if it was a virgin 1.1.1 phone but there are several people saying they managed to do it starting from a 1.0.2 phone that had been activated and unlocked (my case). I also read that it is possible to virginize the baseband so that I can then follow Vomer's guide... but I wonder if there would still be problems with corrupted nvram... do you know?

See this: http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11580

Originally Posted by iTelefono

Hi, I have spent hours reading the other thread and am only half way. I read your posts and found them very interesting as I too want to be able to switch between any sim without activation. My options are to achieve the factory activation or to activate both sim cards (backing up the new activation file) and then place both files in the lockdown folder. Of course I prefer the factory activation...

My problem right now is that I purchased a 1.0.0 phone, updated it to 1.0.2, and then used iUnlock method to unlock it. I now want to update it to 1.1.1. The guide you pointed me to says that you can only do it if it was a virgin 1.1.1 phone but there are several people saying they managed to do it starting from a 1.0.2 phone that had been activated and unlocked (my case). I also read that it is possible to virginize the baseband so that I can then follow Vomer's guide... but I wonder if there would still be problems with corrupted nvram... do you know?

See this: http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11580

as off now, the verginizer has not been released by the dev team (officially at least, but there is a link to the leaked verginizer...if you want you can be a gunie pig)
these are your options...
1)update to 1.1.1 and have the 0049 imei problem...then downgrade your baseband to 3.x and again run the old iUnlock/anysim (kinda complicated)
2)reflash your baseband on 1.0.2 and have a 0049 imei..then do an IPSF unlock and then upgrade to 1.1.1
3)run the verginizer, repair your NVRAM then update to 1.1.1

the posted re-virginizer process works like a champ, assuming you take the time to follow each step exactly and in their specific order. I am loving my unlock'd on 1.0.2, revirginized, updated to 1.1.1 and unlock'd/ready to rock iPhone.

Originally Posted by iPhoneWriter

the posted re-virginizer process works like a champ, assuming you take the time to follow each step exactly and in their specific order. I am loving my unlock'd on 1.0.2, revirginized, updated to 1.1.1 and unlock'd/ready to rock iPhone.

Hi,

so you had an iUnlock (i used the method from harro on freeiphoneunlock.com) and updated it to 1.1.1?

cya,
Arne

Originally Posted by fallenczar

as off now, the verginizer has not been released by the dev team (officially at least, but there is a link to the leaked verginizer...if you want you can be a gunie pig)
these are your options...
1)update to 1.1.1 and have the 0049 imei problem...then downgrade your baseband to 3.x and again run the old iUnlock/anysim (kinda complicated)
2)reflash your baseband on 1.0.2 and have a 0049 imei..then do an IPSF unlock and then upgrade to 1.1.1
3)run the verginizer, repair your NVRAM then update to 1.1.1

I am happy to say that I was able to re-virginize my iUnlocked 1.0.2 iPhone, and upgrade it to 1.1.1. It is not factory activated and unlocked !!!

All I did was follow this thread for the revirginizing process:

REVIRGINIZE YOUR IPHONE 1.0.2 - 100% Working - NOT A DEV TEAM RELEASE

and then I completed the activation and unlock using this other guide:

How to: Unlocked 1.02 --> Viriginize --> Upgrade to 1.1.1 --> Unlock it(Windows)

The reason for mixing the two was that the first guide had been tested much more, and had very detailed instructions (see downloadable guide). Anyhow the first guide stopped after the revirginizing process... so I used the second guide to complete the process.

All went very well... the only issue I kept running into was that my iPhone was connecting to other WiFi networks, or simply not connecting (automatically). Anyhow with a few attempts I managed to get around the issue... don't ask me how because I would not know how to explain... I used the instructions as a basis of what I did but I did things slightly differently to accomodate for the issue I was having.

I am now running 1.1.1 and both my T-Mobile (USA) and TIM (Italy) sim cards work just fine!!!