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    A question of mine is, if i remember well i think i read in a mac unlocking tutorial, that in order to confirm that the phone is still 1.0.2 you submit a code at the emergency mode and it will tell you what FW is running. Can someone confirm this?

    If so, would it be possible *cough* that to be 100% sure that the FW would be 1.0.2 you could open and test it an apple store? After all you are the customer .. and they i suppose would like to sell you their product still.*cough* .Of course just to think of what i am typing is kind of bizarre,inpractical and unrealistic. And maybe apple will ask for a fee if you open it and arent going to buy.

    But i dont know i just wanted to share my thoughts...


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    Quote Originally Posted by LA20 View Post
    I agree with your statement, it will bring back excitement to people like you who has the ability to hack the iphone. For the rest of us, we will follow the development and in the mean while, just stay with 1.0.2 and be happy with it.
    This is by far the best advice that I could give -- stay tuned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvtm View Post
    A question of mine is, if i remember well i think i read in a mac unlocking tutorial, that in order to confirm that the phone is still 1.0.2 you submit a code at the emergency mode and it will tell you what FW is running. Can someone confirm this?

    If so, would it be possible *cough* that to be 100% sure that the FW would be 1.0.2 you could open and test it an apple store? After all you are the customer .. and they i suppose would like to sell you their product still.*cough* .Of course just to think of what i am typing is kind of bizarre,inpractical and unrealistic. And maybe apple will ask for a fee if you open it and arent going to buy.

    But i dont know i just wanted to share my thoughts...
    Yes. There is a code to see this information that is well known. However, if you open the box right after you purchase the phone to check, whilst you do have 14 days to return the phone, the fact that the box is open means that you'll lose 10% (restocking fee) when you request a refund (40 USD is a lot to lose just to type in a code, especially if you plan on going to several Apple stores and repeating the same process until you find a unit that's still running FM 1.0.2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_gts View Post
    Seriously speaking they are correct legally.
    The hardware method makes you scrap the wires so that damage is not repairable unless you repace the bored.
    now the software method modifies the baseband, so even when you restore it is not repairable. (since it is still unlocked).
    now I heard that sometimes when people restore they might get an error that causes their device to freeze and give and error and end up bicked, If Apple tries to intentionally do this then I think they will be legally liable since they will have intensionally damaged a devicethat is by all legal aspects our property not thiers.
    Class-action lawsuit possible imo. If they knowingly try to harm our iphones.

    It would be like us sending them a virus, we would be arrested by FBI

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    I don't know, instead of seeing this as "intentionally trying to harm our phones", being an optimist, I see it as being a fair warning to those of us with an unlocked phone not to update! And most importantly, they want to make it clear that warranty no longer applies - fair enough- but how about those iphones with Hardware defects to begin with? surely, not the unlockers' fault?


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    Class-action lawsuit possible imo. If they knowingly try to harm our iphones.

    It would be like us sending them a virus, we would be arrested by FBI
    Umm no. The release is a warning that the firmware update if applied to a hacked iPhone may cause irreparable damage. It is a CYA from Apple - basically it may work without trouble or it may cause the baseband to become hopelessly corrupt. You cannot reasonably expect them to test every hack on the Internet for future compatibility.

    Basically, if you hacked your firmware you take your chances with updates from Apple that modify also modify the firmware.

    Cheers, Chris W.

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    it is so simple,
    think different

    at first i want to say that everything what once was developed was/is cracked.

    but i want you to think about other facts.
    Why and what does apple?
    They want to sell their iPhone.
    Anyway. So imagine, apple sold the device without rating plans.
    The iPhone would be much expensiver, but unlocked.
    But i think they would sell the same number of phones, because people want it.
    So why a rate plan?
    For a much cheaper Phone? No i dont think so. Apple want free data traffic comming with the carriers. To push their iTunes store.
    So for Apple the best way was/is singing contracts with carriers, free data traffic so everyone can load and pay songs. And hey man, sell that great iPhone.

    So i think apple dont want to lock us all out, because less units would be sold. And less people can buy songs everytome and everywhere.

    I'm german, so i hope you understand my english and what i mean.

    Jesterrace

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    At least in the US, the carrier doesn't pay some of the iphone cost for consumer who signed 2 years contract. In other words, what you said here:

    So imagine, apple sold the device without rating plans.
    The iPhone would be much expensiver, but unlocked.

    is not true, cause iphone with or without ATT still cost the same price.

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    as far as I know the iphone is not subsidized, nor is it tremendously expensive to manufacture now.

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    i think so,
    because apple earns 10% every month, or is that also wrong, i just read all the discussions here about who should the german carrier be.

    Vodafone, so i read, didnt sing the contract because of that 10%.


 

 

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