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Discuss iPhone Firmware 1.1.1 *will* lock us out. at the iPhone "2G" (Rev. 1) - Hackint0sh.org; Originally Posted by the_gts Seriously speaking they are correct legally. The hardware method makes you ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_gts View Post
    Seriously speaking they are correct legally.
    The hardware method makes you scrap the wires so that damage is not repairable unless you repace the bored.
    now the software method modifies the baseband, so even when you restore it is not repairable. (since it is still unlocked).
    now I heard that sometimes when people restore they might get an error that causes their device to freeze and give and error and end up bicked, If Apple tries to intentionally do this then I think they will be legally liable since they will have intensionally damaged a devicethat is by all legal aspects our property not thiers.
    You're absolutely right. Apple would not do this. They'll just make it hard to get back into your phone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thecompkid View Post
    Oh yeah, that stupid dumbass "thecompkid", seriously, who the hell is that guy to say he got an email from Steve Jobs?

    Hey, wait a minute, I am thecompkid!!!! What are the chances?

    You, sir, are a dumbass.
    Ladies/Gentlemen, play nice please. No need for personal statements of any sort or the SYSOPs will trash this tread.

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    I agree with your statement, it will bring back excitement to people like you who has the ability to hack the iphone. For the rest of us, we will follow the development and in the mean while, just stay with 1.0.2 and be happy with it.

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    man you inspire me!.... IF when i m done with my thesis your phone is still unlocked.. i will devote myself to hacking this with you!
    ( so bout 2 months more...)

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    Hmm, homebrew firmware anyone?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnH View Post
    Hmm, homebrew firmware anyone?
    I doubt it is far off.... Look at the fw for the PSP now.

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    Partial jailbreaking should always be possible. If ITunes can modify/read/write files on a device, then you can always write a spoof clone that does the same. I read that iPod Touch sends signed requests to iTunes, then by disassembling the iPod Touch we should get the private key that is used to create these signed requests. Everything should be possible. It shouldn't be impossible to read/write data files, or any files that iTunes will be transfer to/from the device.

    What they (Apple) could do is to ensure that _every_ executable file needs to be signed and verified before executed. If executables always verified the signature upon launch then the only solution is to do a hardware unlock where we can forcibly remove this check, since Apple is the only one that can create executables with the proper signature. This means however that the private key within Apple will be used quite a lot, so it is important that the private key isn't leaked to the public. As soon as the private key is leaked we'll have a software unlock.

    The next question is if Apple could make the hardware unlock foolproof as well. If they can somehow do the executable check in hardware, then that track will be really difficult to pursue.

    Now, there might be a good way out of this mess. Hopefully, Apple will get some serious competition by other vendors which will provide open platforms. This is likely to happen despite patent disputes. Once the alternative devices are available I'll probably switch... maybe Nokia or Ericsson will invent something cool around 2008? At least, if many people do so, then Apple might reconsider open up their platform.

    I don't understand why Steve Jobs is so keen on keeping a closed environment. Nobody would by a Mac if 3rd party developers couldn't write the applications; Apple simply does not have the bandwidth as the rest of the entire world. Why should a phone be different? Look at all these applications that has been released in the recent weeks? Would Apple have been able to accomplish it? No chance, simply because they don't have the bandwidth.

    Finally, see the drama documentary "Pirates in the Silicon Valley"; that will give you some insight to what kind of character we're dealing with here (Jobs, if you're reading this, please don't take it too seriously , I was just joking...)

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    I wouldn't really worry about the FW upgrade cause:

    1. We are not forced to update the iphone
    2. You can always act stupid and say "I have bad credit and on ATT prepaid plan, this morning I updated the iphone and it's stop working. Please give me a new iphone."

    If the damn thing is bricked, how the hell they will know we've hacked it before at that very moment?

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    steve jobs himself used to be in the business of screwing at&t over, and was a hacker way back when. Seriously, the guy is a giant douche bag now.

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    abottema, you make some excellent points. This said, until the code is loaded it's going to be very hard to determine the extent of the damage.


 

 

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