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Discuss Firmware 1.1.3 maybe saturday?? at the iPhone "2G" (Rev. 1) - Hackint0sh.org; we need the secpack of a newer baseband, and if the baseband isn't updated then ...
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    we need the secpack of a newer baseband, and if the baseband isn't updated then we can't use it.
    EDIT: read this. http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?p=131856
    Last edited by irafaS; 12-05-2007 at 10:55 PM.


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    thats the point so the new firmware wont help us.....

    sniffing the unock process will be the solution...
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    It's interesting that the alleged new stuff match the set of "future features" that was posted shortly after 1.1.2 was released.

    Someone was looking at the message strings in one file and found references to "disk mode" (more specifically the messages that are exactly the one in the french text - about having to eject the iPhone), as well as the voice memo.

    At the time the conclusion was that it could be leftover code from the "iPod incarnation" and someone even said that it was present on 1.1.1.

    As for the "This" or "Next" Saturday (if my French still serves me, it means *by this Saturday*), I would say it's pure speculation based on the fact that previous firmware were released on Fridays and if it is to match the French iPhone release, it must be soon.

    I don't want to say it's a hoax, but the whole content of the "announcement" is predictable, based on scanning of the current firmware as well as past events.

    Also, if Apple have changed the bootloader as well as added a restriction on which secpack can be used to reflash the baseband (now only the *next* secpack, so the current one is "useless" to self-reflash or downgrade), and it has been an effective restriction on the unlocking process, why would Apple release a new firmware with a new baseband and secpack so soon? I'm yet to see a functionality related bug in this baseband firmware, such as the SMS problems that have plagued the 2 previous ones. Technically there is no reason for a baseband upgrade.

    I do hope it's true and that a new secpack will be available in the next firmware.

    But, even if it has a new baseband, we still need to decrypt the images to retrieve the secpack as well as the new baseband firmware files and find a way to unlock the new one. Yes, then the current 1.1.2 phones will be able to move to the next baseband. But newer phones will have to wait for the yet another secpack.

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    TUAW got the 1.1.2 firmware early by checking this page for updates, should be the same if 1.1.3 is available...

    http://phobos.apple.com/version

    Edit: Here is the original TUAW page: http://www.tuaw.com/2007/11/13/tuaw-...cess-to-1-1-2/

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    Quote Originally Posted by aviegas View Post
    Also, if Apple have changed the bootloader as well as added a restriction on which secpack can be used to reflash the baseband (now only the *next* secpack, so the current one is "useless" to self-reflash or downgrade), and it has been an effective restriction on the unlocking process, why would Apple release a new firmware with a new baseband and secpack so soon? I'm yet to see a functionality related bug in this baseband firmware, such as the SMS problems that have plagued the 2 previous ones. Technically there is no reason for a baseband upgrade.
    Ummm... the likelihood that Apple will try to resolve the problems with legitimately unlocked phones crashing when using SMS and phone functions might be a high priority, instead of the workaround of using a German iPhone T-Mobile SIM and restoring the software with it. And that may require changes to the baseband.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldaen View Post
    Ummm... the likelihood that Apple will try to resolve the problems with legitimately unlocked phones crashing when using SMS and phone functions might be a high priority, instead of the workaround of using a German iPhone T-Mobile SIM and restoring the software with it. And that may require changes to the baseband.
    That is *NOT* a baseband problem, but rather a terrible design decision made by Apple on the callerid matching procedure that is implement in the AppSupport framework. They use a country based approach to retrieve phone number decomposing rules from a table. If the country reported by the SIM card is not in the table, the calling app crashes.

    This happens to MobilePhone.app and MobileSMS.app when the country reported by the SIM (based on the SIM card MCC -Mobile Country Code that is in turn mapped on the ISO country code) is not in the table. Currently the table supports US, UK, Canada, Germany, France, Italy, China and Japan.

    There are several ways to circumvent this problem, all listed in the WiKi at:

    http://iphone.fiveforty.net/wiki/index.php/AppSupport

    One can also use the "quick and dirty" iWorld approach, that swap the French country code in the table inside AppSupport for another country code (but callerid matching will not work).

    But I agree that Apple needs to fix this for the "French unlocked" phones, for them to be usable by the "French" that decide to swap their French SIMs for a SIM for any other country not in the table.

    Are they planning to solve it now or in the February firmware upgrade? I hope they will do it before February, but I guess they can live without it, stating that the unlocked French phone is just for use in the French territory (????) That will at least by them time.

    And yes, a new firmware will be available before or by February. Apple (not CNET or other obscure French site) announced the iPhone SDK for February and it will require changes in the "OS X" part of the firmware. But still no reason for a baseband change.

    As I said, so far there are no signs of a serious baseband flaw that would cause Apple to change it. Right now it's holding the unlocking attacks, so even if Apple has something ready to make it tighter, why waste that in a round that they are currently winning (at least as far as new phones are concerned).
    Last edited by aviegas; 12-05-2007 at 11:51 PM.

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    but hasnt been this a case that with every firmware the modem has changed, pls correct me if i'm wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by i_max2k2 View Post
    but hasnt been this a case that with every firmware the modem has changed, pls correct me if i'm wrong
    1.0.1 and 1.0.2 had the same baseband. So far there was been 5 firmware releases, 4 basebands and 2 bootloaders.

    It is quite common to update the "OS" firmware while keeping the radio (baseband) firmware. My previous O2 Windows Mobile phone had 4 firmware updates and a single radio (baseband) update.

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    Chances are very likely that even if firmware 1.1.3 comes out, we will still NOT be able to unlock OOTB 1.1.2 w/ 4.6 BL iPhones. So don't get too happy for this upcoming Saturday.
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    But 1.1.2OTB will be unlocked eventually, right? Because I'm about to "order" an iPhone from US and I'm not sure should I do it or not...


 

 

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