Dev Team vs. Nate Jailbreak - The Truth

**vomer** · 02-01-2008 09:19 PM

Hi guys

I was doing some reading into the whole kernel thing that people said was not updated in Nate's jailbreak method which will cause SDK apps not to work...

Well closer reading into the official readme of the dev team release showed me this :

Because this is a soft update, the kernel cache is not upgraded. You will
need to ensure you are on v1.1.2, otherwise this will cause certain DRM
functionality, such as Nikita (Apple's new software installer for the SDK)
to malfunction.

Now the claim made by A developer named johnathan was :

It looks like Nate’s update causes Nikita to break (Nikita is the component on the iPhone/iTouch responsible for installing signed software, such as the iPod App Pack and likely SDK apps in the future),” adding “We believe this is because the soft-update method that was released doesn’t update the kernel cache, so users are likely still booting into the 111 or 112 kernel, which is lacking the necessary DRM components to verify/decrypt packages with Nikita.

AHA! See the lies? If you use dev teams method or nates method either way you are still using the v1.1.2 kernel when on 1.1.3 so this makes the claim that nate's method can break SDK apps invalid and total bs? imo yes. They only way SDK might break according to me is if people update from 1.1.1 to 1.1.3 using nate's method...people who went from 1.1.2 to 1.1.3 should be fine imo.

Now I am not against dev team or nate so this should not be seen as a flame war...im just an iphone owner who wants to know the true facts rather than baseless claims that may cause people unnessisary work of downgrading/upgrading and re jailbreaking 1.1.3 usig dev method.

Share your thoughts

**huecobros** · 02-01-2008 09:26 PM

the truth? they both suck ass. Wait for the real one.

**dandy0510** · 02-01-2008 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by huecobros

the truth? they both suck ass. Wait for the real one.

hahaha. i totally agree.
they have same problems.
NATE and DEVTEAM OFFICIAL RELEASE is the same.

**johnnfx13** · 02-01-2008 10:01 PM

hahaha, this isn't a real update for the phone. ie, not everything is working without some sort of software addon or patch fix. apple SDK? how do we know if it'll work or not. it's not even out for the gen pub. so imo, the only reason to update to 1.1.3 is for google maps and sending mass txt.

**huecobros** · 02-01-2008 10:14 PM

i dont mean to hate on the Dev Team or Nate True for that matter, they have been great to us, but i do not recommend using their methods for 1.1.3. to anyone.

We just got to have patience, remember we are using phones that are not intended to be used in other countries and such. Full Jailbrake/baseband unlock will come sooner than later.

**Tobe** · 02-01-2008 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by huecobros

the truth? they both suck ass. Wait for the real one.

Is not fair to blame the Dev Team and Nate, 1.1.3FW is full of bugs, blame Apple, just go to the Apple Support/iPhone and see all the problems (the same we have here) that users have with the "official" 1.1.3.

**pl_svn** · 02-01-2008 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by vomer

...im just an iphone owner who wants to know the true facts

... both are just a smart way to keep 'teeners busy while waiting for the real one. and, maybe, make them do some usefull (for the devs

) testing on someone else's phone.

stay away from both, be patient and faithful (but, if your phone has the new bootloader, buy a *sim to fully enjoy it while patiently, faithfully waiting :p)