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    Default clidk here for IPSF 1.1.1 unlock muppet show

    www.iphonesimfree.com

    IPSF issues : go to their website (www.iphonesimfree.com) for support, chat in their IRC rooms ( ....), use their treads (...) to ask questions, load and charge their servers and infrastructures ... or maybe their resellers who took your money too ?

    I propose to close, kill, erase .. ALL IPSF support requesting treads in here NOW
    The servers from hackintosh.org are hardly reachable because of IPSF and their resellers NOT taking the responsibility of providing support and tools for and to their customers they took money from !!!

    I propose to ban every user from IRC iphone and iphone dev at irc.osx86.hu if they DARE to ask for IPSF support ; let IPSF themselves open up IRC channels, provide servers for support ...

    Why must the dev-team spend their resources on (and I put this quite nice now) took the liberal freedom to choice the path of commercializing stuff in this market and make some (..) money out of it ..



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    Lighten up, Francis. You might hate IPSF but the fact is what they've done has helped move the course of progress along, and although it's unfortunate that IPSF relies so heavily on the rest of the dev community in order to make its unlock solution accessible, at some level that's part of the give and take of human knowledge and advancement.

    Regardless of your allegiances, getting an iUnlocked phone to an upgraded, working 1.1.1 unlocked phone is significant, if only because it helps show the path to solve a previously unsolveable problem. And if IPSF users also contribute to the dev team, are you really going to begrudge them participation in this forum?

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    Wow, people's ego are easily offended. GET OVER YOURSELVES.

    you going to close all Navizon threads too? They didn't thank the dev team, and CLEARLY use the dev teams work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camflan View Post
    Wow, people's ego are easily offended. GET OVER YOURSELVES.

    you going to close all Navizon threads too? They didn't thank the dev team, and CLEARLY use the dev teams work.
    but the difference is Navizon didn't make any money off like ISPF does.

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    Pardon? Navizon sells for $24.95.... The "free" version is merely a 15-day trial.

    This whole thread is a specious and silly argument. Why can't we admit that both the IPSF folks and the Dev Team are doing very good work, and it really doesn't have to be an either/or scenario.

    IPSF chose to charge for their work, while the Dev Team solicits donations. At the end of the day, there is money flowing in either model, and quite frankly credit needs to be given where credit is due, whether that's in the form of merely praise and verbal support, commercial license purchases, or donations.

    IMHO, there's nothing wrong with paying for the IPSF solution, but one should also ethically donate at least the same amount of money to the dev team, since it wouldn't be possible without their efforts to jailbreak and hacktivate the iPhone, both in terms of the original v1.0.x hacks, and now just recently in terms of the v1.1.1 hacks.

    At the same time, it's ridiculous to ignore the IPSF solution merely because you disagree with their methods. However, it's also clear that the IPSF solution will likely never be any more than it currently is.... A baseband-level SIM-unlock solution, without any of the extra trimmings that make it possible to even run. Therefore, this remains a symbiotic relationship, and even those who use IPSF have to acknowledge the contributions of the Dev Team in making this possible.


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    But did you have to pay to try Navizon?

    Quote Originally Posted by camflan View Post
    Wow, people's ego are easily offended. GET OVER YOURSELVES.

    you going to close all Navizon threads too? They didn't thank the dev team, and CLEARLY use the dev teams work.
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    The Dev Team solicited donation but did they make any profit? I failed to see your point!

    Quote Originally Posted by jhollington View Post
    IPSF chose to charge for their work, while the Dev Team solicits donations. At the end of the day, there is money flowing in either model, and quite frankly credit needs to be given where credit is due, whether that's in the form of merely praise and verbal support, commercial license purchases, or donations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo View Post
    The Dev Team solicited donation but did they make any profit? I failed to see your point!
    That's a good question... It's really impossible to say *where* the money is going...

    That's the irony of those who criticize the IPSF folks... People are willing to hand over and encourage substantial donations to a "cause" that provides no specific information on how much money is being collected or where it's going, but they balk at paying $50 for a commercial solution.

    This is not a criticism of the Dev Team or their donation methodology. I have donated to the Dev Team and will continue to do so. I'm simply trying to point out the dichotomy in the attitudes that people have about this donation model versus IPSF's more commercialized model.

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    Whether you donate money or not, you will get an unlocking solution from the Dev Team unless they have no mean to continue their work. You MUST PAY IPSF to unlock your iPhone. So what is wrong with people criticizing IPSF for using the Dev Team's work to provide their solution and making a profit?


    Quote Originally Posted by jhollington View Post
    That's a good question... It's really impossible to say *where* the money is going...

    That's the irony of those who criticize the IPSF folks... People are willing to hand over and encourage substantial donations to a "cause" that provides no specific information on how much money is being collected or where it's going, but they balk at paying $50 for a commercial solution.

    This is not a criticism of the Dev Team or their donation methodology. I have donated to the Dev Team and will continue to do so. I'm simply trying to point out the dichotomy in the attitudes that people have about this donation model versus IPSF's more commercialized model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo View Post
    Whether you donate money or not, you're will get an unlocking solution from the Dev Team unless they have no mean to continue their work. You MUST PAY IPSF to unlock your iPhone. So what is wrong with people criticizing IPSF for using the Dev Team's work to provide their solution and making a profit?
    Because they didnt do the work the DevTeam did...


 

 
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