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    Agree.

    ta_mobile showed determination to get the secpack and willingness to share. you're not going to find a lot of talent and people willing to do that and should help him with his efforts. cause the next time around he or other people wont be willing to do the same thing again.

    Quote Originally Posted by ibic View Post
    Respect.

    Sad that that 6 iphones are covered with money from their own pockets, this SHOULD be covered with the donation money as the phones are completely used for unlock research purpose.

    Cooperation not confrontation.


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    @pspsully:
    1. What is the result of geohot published the HW unlock steps? More bricked phones than ta_mobile/IMTH had because of impatient people and people doesn't know what they are doing. Just look around the forum. Putting the disclaimer "do it at your own risk" doens't cover your butt. That is exactly why Dev Team did not want to release the secpack because then everyone will try ierase on their BL4.6 phones. What the Dev Team should have done then was to make announment that the 1.1.3 secpack is restrieved and tested unsuccessful with ieraser. Clearly, dev team has yet exhausted their alternative for a SW unlock yet and until then, HW unlock remains the last resort and should not be NOW. Dev Team on the other hand should be more transparent on what they are working on, what kind of attack vector they are targeting etc.

    2. Sure the "mud slinging" between Geohot and Zibri is a little bit childish in my opinion but there must be a reason (most of you don't know) why most of "Dev" community do not think Geohot has amicable ethics. I don't believe this is due to jealousy because we have equally brilliant if not better members in the team like Gray, Dinopio, Chris, Fred etc. Many of you are not familiar of them because they don't work (or interested in) the media as well as Geohot.

    3. Didn't you give the impression that you are part of the "Dev Team" when everybody was questioning whether the leaked 1.1.3 firmware was in the hands of the Dev Team. And you came out of hypernation to give us the assurance they have it and the right people were working on it? (see sticky thread)

    4. Didn't you promise to post a tutorial for the earlier hardware 1.1.2 unlock by hardware flashing the baseband (or something like that) and you disappeared for a long time after that until firmware 1.1.3 was leaked?

    Most of the people in this forum will hate me because I questioned the ethics of their "heroes" but so be it.

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    @pspsully
    We too need transparency of news. Most of us are interesting on sw unlock 1.1.2 ootb first. The jailbreak is a think that come after for us. Please SW unlock news.
    And try to work together with calm. i read the messages tha geohot and zibri sends. why this chlidren war?? a lot of us is not capable to search unlock methods. we only can donate (already done) and wait for you to use the phone to call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iPon View Post
    @pspsully:

    2. Sure the "mud slinging" between Geohot and Zibri is a little bit childish in my opinion but there must be a reason (most of you don't know) why most of "Dev" community do not think Geohot has amicable ethics. I don't believe this is due to jealousy because we have equally brilliant if not better members in the team like Gray, Dinopio, Chris, Fred etc. Many of you are not familiar of them because they don't work (or interested in) the media as well as Geohot.
    Not saying the statement below is true but you need to understand human nature.......

    Geohot has been on several national networks, was given a car (and probably some money) and probably scored some high class pussy way above what he could have nailed had he not been famous for 15 secs. No disrespect meant but seriously, common, the guy aint no Adonis! Dev team members are unknown and probably work for near minimum wage at McDonalds or Walmart. That in itself is enough reason for them to be jealous and hate Geo..........
    Rocking a 4GB unlocked iphone on T-mobile with firmware 2.1.

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    He was given a car? Who gave him that?

    I never knew hacking-out-loud could get you a car!


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    Quote Originally Posted by famac! View Post
    Not saying the statement below is true but you need to understand human nature.......

    Geohot has been on several national networks, was given a car (and probably some money) and probably scored some high class pussy way above what he could have nailed had he not been famous for 15 secs. No disrespect meant but seriously, common, the guy aint no Adonis! Dev team members are unknown and probably work for near minimum wage at McDonalds or Walmart. That in itself is enough reason for them to be jealous and hate Geo..........
    Well, i think you have a very valid point. So, it is either everybody ("dev team") has nothing or everybody has something similar. It is unfortunate that Geohot decided to break out and destroy the delicate equilibrium state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famac! View Post
    Dev team members are unknown and probably work for near minimum wage at McDonalds or Walmart. That in itself is enough reason for them to be jealous and hate Geo..........
    i would guess they are in a development/coding/computing job my self... rather than working in mcdonalds or walmart lol..
    SEARCH!!! Its really not that hard!!

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    Yup he was given a Nissan 350z when he put the first unlocked iPhone on ebay...he was also given 3 8GB iPhone
    4 GB iPhone, Airtel, India

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    amicable ethics?

    guess we can only go by what we read on the net... but if you do it just looks at geo's blog and other projects he's wrote about...

    he just seems like a very smart kid that loves to tackle a project and likes to show it off when he does it. and he seems to be able to lead a project or find people that will help him reach his goal. he wanted to hack the iphone, say it could be done and probably be the first, and got the info and help needed to get it done.

    and when he did and put it on video, he had no problem praising the people who helped him. for doing what he wanted to do for fun, he was rewarded and still think he shared it well with his partners, mentioning it to them and giving them the iphones, etc. never forgot to mention them.

    he doesnt think stragedy of him vs apple with every new update... probably cause he's in school and 'playing' with the iphone is a hobby when he has time. he just sees that if people want the 1.1.2 unlocked, he is going to do it his way again and get it done. seems transparent if you see it that way. he wants to find the solution if he can, but he wants it out there and let the community do what they want with it and this time he teamed with ta_mobile and a couple of others.

    BTW... he didnt get the secpack from dev/elite... it was due to ta_mobile and the $2400 in iphones that got him the secpack so it's his choice to do whatever he wanted with the info! what if it was a russian team or the chinese that hw unlocked it and released it... dev team gonna be calling them lamers too and accuse them of recklessly giving a loaded weapon to a bunch of kids to brick their phones? gimme a break. if anything, ta_mobile probably has a say to what to do with the info and not zibri... he paid for it


    but it's zibri that goes on georges site and posts "You are a big lamer as always." and start bragging about having secpack forever and probably laughed at ta_mobile when he was asking for the secpack and heard he spend 6 iphones to get what he already had and could have given with a simple keystroke.

    from our view... who has less than amicable ethics?
    Last edited by don527; 01-20-2008 at 05:46 PM.

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    After my last post I realized what really should not be overlooked and edit it in bold and to get this thread back on track...

    zibri shouldnt have made a stink about georges blog releasing the hw unlock... but i guess its his stink that made the community realize that there is an issue with dev/elite team because they had the secpack for so long and become this secretive closed group.

    zibri and his dev/elite team would be well advised like so many on this forum have said to be more transparent and less secretive and work with each other and the community better. zibri and his dev/elite team should concentrate on themselves and work on the sw unlock.


 

 

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