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    Default ipad 2 4.3.3 app store slow; ruined OS trying to fix, help?

    Just a few days ago, I found the app store started responding slowly on my ipad2. It would take forever to search for and display the information pages for the available apps. Rebooting the ipad did not help. Turning it off and on did not help. Resetting network settings and rejoining the network did not help. Why might this slowdown be and how to fix it?

    Finally at the advice of some Internet post, I tried Reset All Settings. This caused the OS to get in a state that all apps immediately crash rendering the pad useless, even after trying to hard reset it (hold power and home until the Apple appears). Any way to fix this, or do I need to reinstall iOS from scratch?

    The ipad had been jailbroken on 4.3.3 many months ago. It appears to me that Reset All Settings is a very bad idea on jailbroken devices. I wonder what setting it reset among all the settings that it caused this? And what other operations that a normal user can do, become taboo on jailbroken devices?

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    Most jailbreak documentation specifically states not to do the erase all settings or erase all contents and settings because it causes these kinds of problems. Unfortunately, your best bet is going to be to complete a restore -- you will need SHSH for 4.3.3 in order to restore to 4.3.3 again unless you have a GSM/CDMA device, in which case you can't downgrade right now, or else you'll need to restore to 5.1 (which doesn't have a jailbreak for A5 devices yet).
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    Can changing any individual settings under Settings get a device so messed up it needs its iOS restored? What settings does Reset All Settings change that renders a jailbroken iOS inoperable? I am now worried, that even if I avoid Reset All Settings, that changing certain individual settings normally found under Settings might cause problems on jailbroken devices?

    What other no-no's are there for Jailbroken devices besides this short list:
    -Restoring or updating iOS will lose the jailbreak, which may or may be recoverable depending on circumstances.
    -Never choose Reset All Settings under Settings
    -Take care with Cydia apps, as a defective or incompatible Cydia app may cause issues, or the improper use of a Cydia app can harm a device (like deleting a critical file with a file manager).
    Are there any other ordinary user operations that might ruin a jailbroken iOS? By ordinary user operations, I am referring to things done on the device with standard apps or installed iTunes apps, not Cydia apps

    I am also curious what should I have done about the app store being slow (the original problem)?

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    No, changing settings in Settings.app will not impact your iPad's ability to function, and other than erase all settings and erase all content and settings, there really isn't anything you shouldn't do on the device.

    Erase all settings doesn't work because the jailbreak relocates app data and a few other things when it jailbreaks your device, and erase all settings will erase some of this data without knowing not to. At least, that's a high level version. I'm sure people with deeper knowledge of the jailbreak could provide more specific information about what exactly it's doing, but that should be accurate enough for what you needed.

    That's pretty much the short-list of things not to do, there's nothing you're omitting that I can find as a glaring error.

    As far as the app store being slow, I can only imagine it is/was network related. Just because you can get other places quickly doesn't mean that Apple doesn't have a crappy CDN somewhere that's feeding you slow data. Since Apple's iTunes store is powered by load-balanced servers all across the world, it's very possible you just got sent to a terribly slow server, or that there was packet loss in between you and the destination server that was intermittent, etc. I would have signed out of the Apple Store, rebooted the device, then signed back in. If that didn't fix it, and you did speed tests to confirm the iPad was not having trouble sending/receiving data over WiFi, then you can be pretty sure it's a problem with Apple's servers. If it stuck around for a week or more, I'd take the iPad to the Apple store for them to look at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n1ckn4m3 View Post
    As far as the app store being slow, I can only imagine it is/was network related. Just because you can get other places quickly doesn't mean that Apple doesn't have a crappy CDN somewhere that's feeding you slow data. Since Apple's iTunes store is powered by load-balanced servers all across the world, it's very possible you just got sent to a terribly slow server, or that there was packet loss in between you and the destination server that was intermittent, etc. I would have signed out of the Apple Store, rebooted the device, then signed back in. If that didn't fix it, and you did speed tests to confirm the iPad was not having trouble sending/receiving data over WiFi, then you can be pretty sure it's a problem with Apple's servers. If it stuck around for a week or more, I'd take the iPad to the Apple store for them to look at.
    Thank you for your thoughtful and informative reply.

    Regarding the app store, the issue had been going on a couple days, and connecting to a different Internet connection did not help. I had turned the ipad off by holding power and home and then slide to power off, and then turned it back on and that did not help. Another ipad connected to the same internet connection had faster performance at the app store. Could I have been sent to a different Apple Server than another iPad on my same wifi network? Is there a separate step I needed to do to log out of the app store on the device, or did turning it off and on take care of that?

    (I have not tested lately, as the iPad 2 I screwed up is still out of service, as I am deciding whether I want to reinstall and rejailbreak 4.3.3 with my SHSH blobs, or just update to 5.1 and wait for a new jailbreak, and I have been busy with other things lately.)


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    It's very possible that you were sent to a different one, but the fact that it continued being slow at other locations wouldn't indicate that failure unless you were actually signed in to a different store than the other people you were testing with (e.g., you were signed into the U.K. iTunes Store but they were signed into the U.S. one, etc. They are region specific). If not, it would be remarkably coincidental for you to have the same issues when other people on the same network weren't. At that point I'd start looking into whether you had downloaded and installed any Cydia packages that would impact the App Store (like the 3G unrestrictor, etc.).

    With regard to 5.1, if you wait a week or two, you'll probably have that 5.1 untethered jailbreak you're waiting for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n1ckn4m3 View Post
    It's very possible that you were sent to a different one, but the fact that it continued being slow at other locations wouldn't indicate that failure unless you were actually signed in to a different store than the other people you were testing with (e.g., you were signed into the U.K. iTunes Store but they were signed into the U.S. one, etc. They are region specific). If not, it would be remarkably coincidental for you to have the same issues when other people on the same network weren't. At that point I'd start looking into whether you had downloaded and installed any Cydia packages that would impact the App Store (like the 3G unrestrictor, etc.).
    Actually, there had been no Cydia installs for perhaps two months before the slowness developed. And both I and the other person's ipad use the USA app store. So I still wonder what happened to cause the slowness.

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    One more comment, if the jailbreakers can change strings in the user interface, maybe it would be a good idea to change the words "Reset All Settings" to "Self Destruct iOS" or something like that.

 

 

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