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    Quote Originally Posted by Confucious View Post
    You mean apart from the lack of processing power and/or memory?
    The processing power and memory of the 3G are perhaps lower than the 3GS, but that's not the problem... 400 MHz and 128 MB of RAM on the 3G are more than enough to process simple voice commands, it's not like Apple has ripped the human voice interaction from the USS Enterprise.

    iPhone 3GS will feature 200MHz+ and doubled RAM which are predefined for a better experience. I don't know what the hell were they thinking but the way game development sees it. iPhone 3GS - more features to implement, fancier graphics are able to be calculated and outputted. Soon enough, the iPhone 3G will suffer because of Apple's poor decisions and will force it's owners (some of them bought the phone only 6 months ago) to either give up on the iPhone and go for the N97 from Nokia, or put your tail between your legs and buy an iPhone 3GS.

    Don't get me wrong, I like the iPhone, but the 3GS is forced out. One of the funniest things that they actually put cut copy and paste one it's prime features. I would have been ashamed even to remember the fact iPhones until 3.0 didn't have cut/copy/paste functionality.

    It isn't really hardware related, they'll just lock it down to the 3GS anyway they deem possible.


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    It is also worth noting that the original iPhone and the iPhone 3G has a 620 MHz that is underclocked to 412 MHz. However, voice recognition has existed on phones with 200MHz processors for years (see Motorola RAZR).

    As well, the voice recognition App is essentially just an app. It runs when it is launched, requests input from the user, processes it, and then quits to move onto the next task.

    While it will probably not going to be possible to launch the voice recognizer when you are playing XL2 Supercross on the 3G, I would expect that the OS would handle everything as if a call came in and quitting the game until the Phone app quits.

    The key benefit of the iPhone that is making it so talked about as a gaming platform is it's graphics card.

    For example, the PSP has a 333 MHz processor (which many games underclock to 200 MHz) and 36 MB memory.

    ~Adrian

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayDX View Post
    EDIT: Processing my thoughts here, it would be stupid to release two versions of the 3.0 software for iPhone 3G (and lower) and iPhone 3GS. Would it be logical to assume that the 3.0 GM has the Voice Control.app implemented in the current version but the iTunes had detected an iPhone 3G plugged in (new versions of iTunes, exclusively used because of the 3.0 software, few betas came) and blocked some contents of the IPSW of 3.0 OS like the Voice Control.app because it's not iPhone 3GS? Based on this hypothesis, if logical to the rest of you, perhaps to explore the ipsw for the Voice Control in the 3.0 GM release?
    Actually that's what they do.
    Every time a firmware update for the iPhone comes out it comes in two flavor: iPhone1,1 (2G) and iPhone1,2 (3G).
    It is only fair to assume the 3GS is the iPhone2,1 we've already seen poking around in the iPhoneOS 3.0 file system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iDarbert View Post
    Actually that's what they do.
    Every time a firmware update for the iPhone comes out it comes in two flavor: iPhone1,1 (2G) and iPhone1,2 (3G).
    It is only fair to assume the 3GS is the iPhone2,1 we've already seen poking around in the iPhoneOS 3.0 file system.
    Yeah, it was my mistake. Got into the iPhone seas a little late so made a wrong assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayDX View Post
    I keep forgetting that there are other editions other than 3G. Don't know what I was thinking yesterday when I wrote this, damn. Well, I am new to the iHacking seas, don't take it harsh on me. Yes, you are right... Theoretically then, we'll just have to wait and decrypt the .dmg files within the given ipsw for 3GS to extract the data we need. Although I doubt we will be able to implement it on 3G to be functional... Ah

    Dumb me
    No problem We all have moments when our train of thought leaves the station without us. Better to ask and get an answer than assume and be incorrect!

    EDIT: For what it's worth, I'm dumb as well I didn't realize that the restore image for the 3G S was already out and was referred to as the iPhone 2,1 -- not the iPhone 1,3 as I had errantly guessed in the previous post.
    Last edited by n1ckn4m3; 06-16-2009 at 12:54 AM.


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    So... who wants to try and install the 3Gs filesystem on their 3G?

    http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/f201/75396.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by appleguru View Post
    So... who wants to try and install the 3Gs filesystem on their 3G?

    http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/f201/75396.htm
    I am willing to give it a go, but I need to research this a little more before I jump in blindly.

 

 
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