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    Default Is only iphone-dev out there who works on unlock?

    Is only iphone-dev out there who works on unlock?

    isn't it difficult to believe that we all are waiting for iPhone-Dev to come up with a solution yellowsnow one day that will unlock our beta OS 3.0 Betas? isn't there anybody else who can do it?

    no offense to anybody,,, just a curious question.. and i know it was told not to upgrade as it won't unlock..

    by the way, MOOGLEX.com has a Sim based solution for betas...

    hmmm... why can't that be done through software that is being done through hardware..



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    Quote Originally Posted by sbsyb1 View Post
    Is only iphone-dev out there who works on unlock?

    isn't it difficult to believe that we all are waiting for iPhone-Dev to come up with a solution yellowsnow one day that will unlock our beta OS 3.0 Betas? isn't there anybody else who can do it?

    no offense to anybody,,, just a curious question.. and i know it was told not to upgrade as it won't unlock..

    by the way, MOOGLEX.com has a Sim based solution for betas...

    hmmm... why can't that be done through software that is being done through hardware..
    no its not difficult to believe, they give very good reasons. what i cant believe is people who have had to be so patient for an unlock can be so IMPATIENT with BETA software that there is no good reason to develop an unlock for, just giving apple more holes to close up creating the potential for the final unlock to be that much harder (if possible at all) to get an unlock for your impatience for an incomplete buggy OS you could prolong your wait for a final unlock, why is this so hard to fathom?

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    well actually i agree to all that you have said.. but to tell you the truth using new features especially when u can see them and cant use them is difficult to digest for people like me..

    anyhow,, i have unlocked by the way.. and this satisfies me.. especially I'm not the only one who has done that.. just google and solution is lying there..

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    Yea, everyone here knows that there are SIM solutions for an "unlock" out there, and many people still use those extensively in place of doing even the original iPhone Persistent Unlock.

    If people are *really* determined to get their phone working on another provider's network, than there is nothing that can stop them. I mean hell, there are people who crack their phones open and unlock them with a soldering iron!

    The Dev Team has already expressed that they have no interest in providing jailbreaks for the 3.0 Betas at this time as it's a futile effort as anything that they do just needs to be redone once every 2 weeks for the next month and a half.

    If other people (like these russians that are putting out the current QuickPwn for 3.0) feel like spending the time and the effort do make jailbreaking on an early beta OS available to the public, than so be it! Who am I to argue with what someone else chooses to do with their time?

    ~Adrian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Fogge View Post
    Yea, everyone here knows that there are SIM solutions for an "unlock" out there, and many people still use those extensively in place of doing even the original iPhone Persistent Unlock.

    If people are *really* determined to get their phone working on another provider's network, than there is nothing that can stop them. I mean hell, there are people who crack their phones open and unlock them with a soldering iron!

    The Dev Team has already expressed that they have no interest in providing jailbreaks for the 3.0 Betas at this time as it's a futile effort as anything that they do just needs to be redone once every 2 weeks for the next month and a half.

    If other people (like these russians that are putting out the current QuickPwn for 3.0) feel like spending the time and the effort do make jailbreaking on an early beta OS available to the public, than so be it! Who am I to argue with what someone else chooses to do with their time?

    ~Adrian
    well jailbreaking is a different story i personally cannot live without jailbreak, and the process to jailbreak is infinitely easier than a unlock so that was bound to have another person/team take a crack at it with a higher degree of success. If apple would stop being totalitarian with their stranglehold of what we can and cant do jb wouldnt be such a necessity, but since that will never happen jb will always be a necessity for me, luckily using AT&T unlock will always be irrelevant for me.


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    geohot does most of the unlocking stuff. he found the vulnerability for yellowsn0w, the dev team wrote the payload. he alos found a way to downgrade any baseband version back to 2.28 if you have 5.8 bootloader. he also did the iPhone 2G bootloader 4.6 hardware and software unlocks. he also did the iPhone 2G bootloader 3.9 hardware unlock. also, he is responsible for the fakeblank hack, that allowed things such as the devteam wifi fixer.

    besides geohotz though, nobody else works on the unlocking scene, probably due to the lack of documentation of the baseband and excess amount of documentation on the S5L on places like the iPhone wiki (well personally, I just have no interest in baseband and that's why I work with S5L ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChronicProductions View Post
    geohot does most of the unlocking stuff. he found the vulnerability for yellowsn0w, the dev team wrote the payload. he alos found a way to downgrade any baseband version back to 2.28 if you have 5.8 bootloader. he also did the iPhone 2G bootloader 4.6 hardware and software unlocks. he also did the iPhone 2G bootloader 3.9 hardware unlock. also, he is responsible for the fakeblank hack, that allowed things such as the devteam wifi fixer.
    A bit onesided documenttion of things.

    - geohots basics are based on work from devteam, where he was a member in and been thrown out for publishing entire findings of weeks as his own (search forum for the drama about his so called manifest)
    - he was digging for a none working jtag in the phone for ages
    - patches for hardware unlock were made by someone else (who not wanted to be named)
    - jtag was found based on leaked documentation
    - hardware hack was based on these findings and reverse enginering of the perosn who made the patchs
    - bootlaoder work on 2G was nearly entirely done by Daeken, iZsh and a not named person who wrote nordumper and made communication to bb possible
    - all 2G unlocks (except iphone simfree) were based on the later method we published with the first command line unlock

    Immo Geohot always been a attention whore, sorry to say that. I remmber him comming to the team on IRC as half educated n00b, who never used IDA Pro before. He had lot of people who did stuff, he than published entirely under his name, please remember that.

    Don't get me wrong I have respect on what he learned and the newest stuff he found but please, please don't stylize him to a goddess, who he not really is.
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    hmmm, I did not know this, I thought that they found JTAG themselves. and I knew that gray did a lot of work like the patches, which is understandable because on his blog for the hw unlock he at least says it was a team effort. i'll look for the manifest thread to see what you mean in that regard, hopefully it is not deleted right now because it is probably quite old x)

    Quote Originally Posted by sam View Post
    A bit onesided documenttion of things.

    - geohots basics are based on work from devteam, where he was a member in and been thrown out for publishing entire findings of weeks as his own (search forum for the drama about his so called manifest)
    - he was digging for a none working jtag in the phone for ages
    - patches for hardware unlock were made by someone else (who not wanted to be named)
    - jtag was found based on leaked documentation
    - hardware hack was based on these findings and reverse enginering of the perosn who made the patchs
    - bootlaoder work on 2G was nearly entirely done by Daeken, iZsh and a not named person who wrote nordumper and made communication to bb possible
    - all 2G unlocks (except iphone simfree) were based on the later method we published with the first command line unlock

    Immo Geohot always been a attention whore, sorry to say that. I remmber him comming to the team on IRC as half educated n00b, who never used IDA Pro before. He had lot of people who did stuff, he than published entirely under his name, please remember that.

    Don't get me wrong I have respect on what he learned and the newest stuff he found but please, please don't stylize him to a goddess, who he not really is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChronicProductions View Post
    geohot does most of the unlocking stuff. he found the vulnerability for yellowsn0w
    He found one injection vector...one that worked at 02.28 (and was promptly closed). We had other injection vectors that worked at earlier basebands. He actually had AT+STKPROF since September but couldn't do anything with it for those 4 months before he offered it to us as we were about to release yellowsn0w on earlier basebands.

    he alos found a way to downgrade any baseband version back to 2.28 if you have 5.8 bootloader
    Which we also had, back in January. As your own posts on his blog show.

    He also did the iPhone 2G bootloader 4.6 hardware and software unlocks.
    He did not do a software unlock. And what is a 4.6 hardware unlock??? His 4.6->3.9BL downgrader (done only with the help of our GPIO info) allowed gray's AnySim (software) unlock to be applied.

    he is responsible for the fakeblank hack, that allowed things such as the devteam wifi fixer.
    LOL ok, now you're just making stuff up. Please don't.

    besides geohotz though, nobody else works on the unlocking scene


    "geohot does most of the unlocking stuff". No.
    Last edited by MuscleNerd; 04-25-2009 at 02:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam View Post
    - jtag was found based on leaked documentation
    That's part of info I didn't know. Can you please be more accurate?

    Regarding to who did this or who didn't do that, that is valuable of course, but I've seen this many times before with not so good results. Please don't do this again.

    Cheers


 

 
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