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    Obviously, I along many others in the community are eagerly waiting for the new iPhone to be released. One major factor in deciding how soon I get it would be if the new iPhone will be jailbreak-able or not.

    I know that for the 2G and 3G with 3.0 OS, jailbreaking isn't a problem because the JB process is in the hardware so there's nothing Apple can do about that. But isn't it possible that Apple will most likely decide to patch its hardware so that JBing is no longer possible? Just like Apple patched yellowsn0w for 3G 2.2.1, patched hardware can also be deemed to be very likely, rendering a current/new JB to be possibly impossible.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy2DaWurld View Post
    Obviously, I along many others in the community are eagerly waiting for the new iPhone to be released. One major factor in deciding how soon I get it would be if the new iPhone will be jailbreak-able or not.

    I know that for the 2G and 3G with 3.0 OS, jailbreaking isn't a problem because the JB process is in the hardware so there's nothing Apple can do about that. But isn't it possible that Apple will most likely decide to patch its hardware so that JBing is no longer possible? Just like Apple patched yellowsn0w for 3G 2.2.1, patched hardware can also be deemed to be very likely, rendering a current/new JB to be possibly impossible.
    i think many people will avoid buying iPhones if jailbreak is not possible, since apple still decides its necessary to play totalitarian dictator with their phones and what we are allowed to do with them (considering we own them we SHOULD be allowed to do whatever we want, imagine if they locked computers down as much as they do phones, they'd go out of business!) jailbreak is still a big necessity to make the phone reach its full potential.

    i look at it this way, for every person trying to make it impossible to crack or jailbreak something, there are 1000 people that are going to work night and day to get around it, if there is a flaw, it is a 100% inevitability that someone with enough motivation and skill will find it. That is why as a developer i only devote so much time to combating piracy. my philosophy is, if its well enough protected to keep script kiddies at bay (most app crackers these days are worthless script kiddies who can't do anything on their own without utilities provided by the real skilled hackers so deterring them is easy) its more worthwhile to spend time making a product worth buying instead of 100% crack proof.

    just my two cents

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    One thing I've always said is "behind closed doors do apple really want to stop people jail-breaking"

    They will always patch unlocks like yellowsn0w because they have agreements with network providers to uphold, but jail-breaking is kind of an unofficial selling point that must have sold them 1000s of phones & even apple must have noticed that one by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n350z View Post
    One thing I've always said is "behind closed doors do apple really want to stop people jail-breaking"

    They will always patch unlocks like yellowsn0w because they have agreements with network providers to uphold, but jail-breaking is kind of an unofficial selling point that must have sold them 1000s of phones & even apple must have noticed that one by now.
    At one point I kind of thought the same thing. I mean if they knew about JBing, wouldn't they make a slightly modified model of the 2G/3G so that it would no longer be possible?

    We're definitely going to have to wait and see what Apple has in store for us, but I can personally say I'd be turned OFF to buying the new iPhone if the JBing is "fully patched."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitosoft View Post
    i think many people will avoid buying iPhones if jailbreak is not possible, since apple still decides its necessary to play totalitarian dictator with their phones and what we are allowed to do with them (considering we own them we SHOULD be allowed to do whatever we want, imagine if they locked computers down as much as they do phones, they'd go out of business!) jailbreak is still a big necessity to make the phone reach its full potential.

    i look at it this way, for every person trying to make it impossible to crack or jailbreak something, there are 1000 people that are going to work night and day to get around it, if there is a flaw, it is a 100% inevitability that someone with enough motivation and skill will find it. That is why as a developer i only devote so much time to combating piracy. my philosophy is, if its well enough protected to keep script kiddies at bay (most app crackers these days are worthless script kiddies who can't do anything on their own without utilities provided by the real skilled hackers so deterring them is easy) its more worthwhile to spend time making a product worth buying instead of 100% crack proof.

    just my two cents
    I agree with you in that there will be so many different persons and "teams" that will try and find an exploit. Apple plays God at times attempting to run the computer/phone world at will. In a small way, it's a monopoly in that their products are so loved that they will pump up the prices (Macs) and claim violations and illegal actions against JBers. So you never really know what you're going to get. Apple and no one else deemed JBing and soft-unlocking to be illegal because of app piracy and contracts with carriers, but at the same time, the main reason so many people get an iPhone is because of the JB process which does SO MUCH that the iPhone OTB is missing.

    It'll come down to whether or not Apple wants to indirectly violate its contracts with carriers. It will be no surprise if there is an exploit that allows the JB process in the new iPhone, but at the same time, no surprise again if it isn't possible for a longer time period


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    I think while previously jailbreaking did sell iPhones, now with the app store and so many countries and carriers having the iPhone the need for jailbreaking the device doesn't have the appeal that it once did. Slowly but surely Apple are making all their own versions of useful jailbreak apps like voice recorder, video recorder, tethering, etc.

    I jailbroke my first two iPhones but when I went all out and took out an official iPhone contract, I didn't bother jailbreaking it, simply because anything good was on the app store, and not in something like cydia.

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    Given what we've seen with the iPod Touch 2, odds are that jailbreaking will require a new vulnerability that is to be exploited.

    I can honestly say that as long as Apple does not allow me to set custom SMS Received tones, I have every intention of jailbreaking.

    Being in an on-call environment means that one week a month I *need* to be woken up 24/7 in case I get a text or phone call.

    The problem is that there are no SMS Received tones that are obtrusive enough to wake you up. Given that Apple has set their own Alarm app to use any ringtone as well, they have obviously seen that their default options are not the greatest choices to get someone's attention.

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    as long as i cant customize the phone to every extent jailbreaking allows (my own ringtones, sms tones, backgrounds, themes etc..) jailbreaking will be a 100% necessity for me to buy any new phones or upgrade to any new OSes, it's as simple as that for me.

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    as soon as jailbreaking is confirmed if the specs are worth it then yes... hopefulyl everything wont be crippled this time on the newer iphone.. but i think many had high hopes for the 3g and it turned out to be the same rubbish without jailbreak just not worth it...

    btw how long did the 3g take to jailbreak?? i wasent following that as at the time i only had 2g

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    the thing is now we have the app store, and to an average consumer jailbreaking is useles.. i have enough friends with iphones and id say out of 8 of them only 2 have theirs jailbroken..that being said to us the real iphone users jailbreaking is absolutely essential when we are gonna consider buying the new phone..to some its the themes to some its various sms sounds for me its using skype over 3g.. why we cant use skype over 3g is absolutely rediculous..im paying for a data plan which im on a contract for the next 3 years.. so technically i should be able to use any sort of data on my iphone for the next 3 years..but thats not how it is.. if apple really wants to shut this community down they should start selling unlocks for a high but affordable price.. id say $100 would be ok.. im on a contract anyways so me paying more money to get my phone unlocked would just bring them more revenue and i cant leave the contract anyways..


 

 
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