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    I am starting the restore process now.

    about the push notifications, I would prefer to have it so it doesn't take extra from battery life. but I will go on with that later.

    Thanks I hope this thread is going to be informative for anyone in my position. I will keep you updated with how it goes after I start with the process.

    Thank you again.


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    Olethros maybe I did something wrong,
    I wanted to follow the order of your list, first restore, and then the procedure,
    however after the reinstall when I connect iphone to the restore again with the procedure, there is no restore option, all I get is

    "the sim card inserted in this iphone does not appear to be supported"

    am I really stuck, what did I do wrong??

    waiting for your reply, thank you

    -Arda

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    Quote Originally Posted by arda21 View Post
    Olethros maybe I did something wrong,
    I wanted to follow the order of your list, first restore, and then the procedure,
    however after the reinstall when I connect iphone to the restore again with the procedure, there is no restore option, all I get is

    "the sim card inserted in this iphone does not appear to be supported"

    am I really stuck, what did I do wrong??

    waiting for your reply, thank you

    -Arda
    Ahh, yeah - force the iPhone into either DFU or recovery mode http://www.hackint0sh.org/f137/54082.htm (recovery mode is easier to get into) then the option will come up.
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    I almost fainted before when I thought I wouldn't be able to get out from that state where the iTunes didn't show up any restore option earlier

    anyways, I am thru every step now;

    1-it seems like when I am downloading stuff I get a lot of errors, specially 'Failed to fetch' errors.

    2-Also something mainly called Netdb errors I wonder why, it keeps saying failed to fetch

    3-After you I found a website that had directions to 'install Push Doctor 1.01' it seems like it did install, as it restarted Cydia in the end,
    I just don't know how to check if these things applied correctly. cause I don't see any icon for Push Doctor icon, shouldn't I suppose to see what's installed in the main screen where I have all the icons, or is it hidden and I need to turn it on somewhere?

    4-also just checked my main settings; it's in 'Mail, Contacts, Calenders' setting, the 'Fetch new data' is off. it is also set 'Manually' so I wonder what that does for now since Push Doctor is installed.

    5-You said earlier; "The only downside to hacktivation is that you don't get push notifications. They require unique certificates that are issued during a legitimate activation. You can work around this with the free Push Doctor or the paid pushfix 2.0 - both of which install unique legitimately generated certificates on your iPhone.Without legit certs, not only do push notifications not work - but they chew up battery life trying to initiate the push notification subsystem. So if you don't think that you will ever use push notifications - you must install an app that uses push, let it turn on push notifications, then turn push notifications off in the settings menu that appears. Otherwise it remains in a half-on state that simply uses battery."

    so I just am not sure what this 'half on' state is and how do I know which state my Iphone is in now.


    Thank you for everything, now I will search and see if I can customize my phone.
    Last edited by arda21; 10-28-2010 at 09:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arda21 View Post
    I almost fainted before when I thought I wouldn't be able to get out from that state where the iTunes didn't show up any restore option earlier

    anyways, I am thru every step now;

    1-it seems like when I am downloading stuff I get a lot of errors, specially 'Failed to fetch' errors.
    2-Also something mainly called Netdb errors I wonder why, it keeps saying failed to fetch
    Don't worry about that - unless the errors continue after you update the core Cydia components. If they continue - your iPhone can't talk to some repositories (either they are down or your internet connection blocks some servers)

    Quote Originally Posted by arda21 View Post
    3-After you I found a website that had directions to 'install Push Doctor 1.01' it seems like it did install, as it restarted Cydia in the end,
    I just don't know how to check if these things applied correctly. cause I don't see any icon for Push Doctor icon, shouldn't I suppose to see what's installed in the main screen where I have all the icons, or is it hidden and I need to turn it on somewhere?
    Despite being involved in the behind the scenes of getting parts of Push Doctor working (I mostly worked on the donation of legitimate certificates) I have never needed to install Push Doctor (as I can generate my own legit certs). There is no GUI, simply install (and if you got no errors during install) reboot your phone, then try to install/run an app that includes push notifications.

    Quote Originally Posted by arda21 View Post
    also just checked my main settings; it's in 'Mail, Contacts, Calenders' setting, the 'Fetch new data' is off. it is also set 'Manually' so I wonder what that does for now since Push Doctor is installed.

    You said earlier; "The only downside to hacktivation is that you don't get push notifications. They require unique certificates that are issued during a legitimate activation. You can work around this with the free Push Doctor or the paid pushfix 2.0 - both of which install unique legitimately generated certificates on your iPhone.Without legit certs, not only do push notifications not work - but they chew up battery life trying to initiate the push notification subsystem. So if you don't think that you will ever use push notifications - you must install an app that uses push, let it turn on push notifications, then turn push notifications off in the settings menu that appears. Otherwise it remains in a half-on state that simply uses battery."

    so I just am not sure what this 'half on' state is and how do I know which state my Iphone is in now.

    This is a very common confusion. Push Mail has nothing to do with Push Notifications except they both include the word Push.

    Push Notifications is a system where app developers can send notifications (that appear similar to SMS messages on your iPhone). These are sent via a centralised Apple server to reduce battery and mobile data usage.

    Push Notifications is also used by face-time on the iPhone 4.

    Until you install and run an app from the Appstore that uses push notifications, you will see NOTHING in the settings app about push notifications. However your phone is constantly trying (and failing) to initialise push notifications which wastes battery and mobile data usage. There are plenty of free apps that offer push notifications.

    Push mail maintains a direct connection to each true push mail server you configure (and enable fetch new data as push). This is a completely separate system.
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    so since I don't have anything installed,
    I understand that from your last post, 'Fetch New Data' option that I mentioned I said it's off, is what you said is 'Push Mail'

    so I am assuming since its saying manually, thats for to mail account to be checked by me manually, instead of fetching automatically itself to see if there is new email.

    anyways.

    MY LAST QUESTION;

    How can I thank you for all this and going thru with everything, Do you work on any software yourself, where I can buy/donate some online? or anything I do even little to thank you for your 24 hour effort?

    I really really appreciate your time,

    Arda

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    after my last post, I installed this free application called zillow, and it enabled and asked me about push notifications, now assuming I have Push Doctor installed, how should I check if I am in that bad 'half-state' or what should be my setting?

    currently: I switched everything on with 'push' settings.


    thank you again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olethros View Post
    activation - Performed via iTunes, this allows you to use the iPhone as everything but a phone. Without this the phone is stuck at "slide for emergency" screen. On a 2G, the sim card that shipped with the iPhone originally - if the sim card had been activated with the carrier and then was still active or subsequently deactivated, then iTunes would detect this and allow iPhone activation (different to sim activation)
    Would this be why I couldn't get iTunes to show the screen inviting me to activate for AT&T after I restored my 3.1.3 firmware on a 2g iphone (I had a different, but unactivated SIM, not the one that came with it)?

    2g problems - wifi & Restoring to stock firmware?
    http://www.hackint0sh.org/f207/180766.htm

    I understand now that if a 2g phone is to be used with any SIM other than its original, it needs to be hackivated. So, if one sells or gives a 2g phone to an AT&T user, it seems it would be best to go ahead to RedSn0w it to gain the hackivation, even though unlock is not needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JN2 View Post
    I understand now that if a 2g phone is to be used with any SIM other than its original, it needs to be hackivated. So, if one sells or gives a 2g phone to an AT&T user, it seems it would be best to go ahead to RedSn0w it to gain the hackivation, even though unlock is not needed.
    Yes. Exactly use redsn0w, but don't use unlock. Also use push doctor. And if the original owner had used the iPhone with AT&T and then deactivated the SIM, make sure that you get the SIM card from them when you buy the iPhone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olethros View Post
    Yes. Exactly use redsn0w, but don't use unlock. Also use push doctor. And if the original owner had used the iPhone with AT&T and then deactivated the SIM, make sure that you get the SIM card from them when you buy the iPhone.
    Ok, but it just seem strange that one has to hack the phone in order to return to the Activate with AT&T screen after a restore, when using a different AT&T SIM. I just wonder why Apple would be trying to lock the phone down to an individual SIM, as opposed to AT&T in general.


 

 
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