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    Default Why does everyone say you should buy a copy of Mac OSX?

    I've been reading a lot lately about Hackintosh - I never knew it existed

    One theme I've seen in just about every website I read, everyone says: please buy the Mac OSX software to do the install

    Why is this?
    Given that the whole process is 'allegedly' illegal, then why would someone go to the bother of buying the software when they can just download?
    (Of course, you have to know where you can download from)

    I just found it strange that this message seemed to be universal: please buy the software

    What am I missing?

    Does a purchased version come with a serial number or something that is required for the installation?

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    There is no serial.

    I think the reason is that, depending on the methodology, it could be "more" or "less" illegal. I've seen some arguments that it isn't illegal at all. Besides, some crimes are worse than others. To use a very crude analogy, purposely pushing a stranger could be illegal. Pushing a stranger into a car is very illegal.

    Many people who are doing this don't actually want to be involved with stealing Apple's property, and would simply like for OSX to be installed on their own hardware, the way you can install windows on macs. To many, myself included it feels a lot more wrong to download it for free then to buy it and then try to make it work. With the former, it is (arguably, to some) stealing. The latter is more like me trying to fit a ferrari engine in a lamborghini or something. It wasn't meant to be that way, but I'm technically not hurting anyone(unless the car crashes =p).

    Secondly, because it's not that expensive. 30 bucks, and saves you the trouble of waiting for torrents, possibly getting in trouble, getting bandwith throttled, finding the right torrent that isn't corrupt, etc.

    Finally, the box is pretty.

    In other words, it's just a moral thing, really. And perhaps those people trying to cover themselves up, should they be legally persecuted.

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    interesting reply

    let's not beat around the bush: it's illegal
    i think everyone knows it
    it's apple's divine right to say that their software for which they've spent zillions developing should not be used for any other purpose than they state
    at least: the laws allow them to do this

    but i think it's interesting that *most* (from my very crude research so far) people do buy - i personally had thought there *must* be a serial of something involved

    torrents?? i pity those people who use such measures
    there are other methods that can be used that will allow downloading much quicker and reliably and safely (well much safer anyway)
    but that's a different topic altogether

    if i were to do a hackintosh installation (not saying that i am or will), i'd actually buy the software, use, and then sell on eBay
    (if it's illegal to sell on ebay - then apple can have ur listing pulled - but i've seen loads for sale)
    the resale price on ebay is pretty good and u'd actually get ur money back by selling

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    Oh, lol, of course there are faster methods. I only used torrents as a generic example. The others are unspeakable.

    But I don't think there was any beating around the bush. There are different kinds of illegal. I'm not sure of the technical aspect of it, but purportedly stealing and installing on not-approved hardware is worst than the latter alone =P

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    Wink cp/m

    I have been using computers since the 1980's and never bought an OS,except for a pc I bought brand new in 2003 and promptly put win98lite on.
    Back then wally world even gave you the option of using Lindows instead of xp.


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    Quote Originally Posted by napilopez View Post
    In other words, it's just a moral thing, really. And perhaps those people trying to cover themselves up, should they be legally persecuted.
    This is correct, it primarily is a moral thing. However by buying a copy of OS X, you can't be prosecuted for piracy. The only thing you could maybe be prosecuted for is violation of the license agreement that OS X ships with. If you argue that you purchased the software and this was for non-commercial/personal use - the chance of getting a conviction/fine is quite low.

    Also:
    • It also protects the person writing the guide - no one can say that they are advocating piracy.
    • To my knowledge, the enforceability of apple's EULA has only been tested in the USA legal system.
    • By avoiding torrents, you also avoid the chance that someone slipped some malware into the OS X image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olethros View Post
    • By avoiding torrents, you also avoid the chance that someone slipped some malware into the OS X image.
    now that's a very interesting point i've always wondered a lot about
    how easy would it be to do this?
    very easy i would have thought

    i'm not an expert on this: but isn't it possible to use md5 or something to verify all is ok?

    besides: how about the other 'helper' bits of software that is required to make the installations of hackintosh? could they not be infested with malicious code that insert into ur installation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OM2 View Post
    now that's a very interesting point i've always wondered a lot about
    how easy would it be to do this?
    It's very easy. There was a pirated version of iLife a while back that slipped in malware.

    Quote Originally Posted by OM2 View Post
    i'm not an expert on this: but isn't it possible to use md5 or something to verify all is ok?
    sha1 is better, but you need to trust the person who published the sha1/md5 - apple doesn't publish these for their retail discs.

    Quote Originally Posted by OM2 View Post
    how about the other 'helper' bits of software that is required to make the installations of hackintosh? could they not be infested with malicious code that insert into ur installation?
    Again, it's easy enough for something to be inserted into these as well. It all depends on how much you trust the source.

    If they use the Apple installer, you can preview what will actually be installed. For example.

    As OS X gets more popular, the appeal of targeting malware towards it will increase.
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    Moral issues, no chance of getting malware (thru the installation disk), and the fact you can't get in trouble for piracy.

    And everything else that Olethros said

 

 

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