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    Default How hard is a Hackintosh install?

    I have been toying around with the idea of building an inexpensive Hackintosh system; in part just to see what it's like, but also because I want to try some IOS development.

    So if I were to put together a system from the HCL (and perhaps also by looking at the specs of some of Apple's systems), could I expect a trouble-free install and a 100% working system?

    Spending a weekend to get the system up and running would be fine, but I'd rather not do more than that.

    Over the years, I have built a few systems and I have installed Linux or Windows even more times, but I'm by no means an expert. (Every time I build a new system, either hardware has changed, or I have forgotten how it worked, so I end up having to learn things anew...)

    My goal in this project would be to have something more powerful but less expensive than a Mac Mini (and hopefully more flexible).



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    Quote Originally Posted by notwoz View Post
    could I expect a trouble-free install and a 100% working system?
    I don't think you will ever achieve 100% unless you had an exact match on all the hardware.
    As an example I can't play dvd's and the resolution is set to 1024x768 because of my video card.
    I was lucky on my first install (inspiron 1545) because there was a tutorial and links to all the drivers.
    That was snow leopard,my other machines have just leopard and I had to scour the earth to get drivers myself.I have better luck with leopard so I stick with that.As we all should know by now newer isn't always better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtgold View Post
    I don't think you will ever achieve 100%
    Oh, thanks.

    I realized that installing Hackintosh would not be as easy and straight-forward as a Linux installation. But I had hoped that with careful selection of motherboard and graphics it would still be possible to get around all problems and get an installation where everything worked. Anyway, thanks for your help.

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    Well, I think you hit the nail on the head by saying "careful selection of mobo and graphics" and you select to do this with a desktop build (not a laptop). I built my rig (see signature) in 2009 and ran Leopard on it and then switched to Snow Leopard. I have got every update from the Apple servers without a single glitch and everything works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike7 View Post
    I built my rig (see signature) in 2009 and ran Leopard on it and then switched to Snow Leopard. I have got every update from the Apple servers without a single glitch and everything works.
    OK. I was looking to build a low-end system. Apart from that, your advice is exactly what I'm looking for.

    I have seen some other lists of components, but not with any indication of if full functionality was accomplished or how difficult the install was.

    I'm also looking at the hardware compatibility list but I'm having problems making sense of it.

    For example, which of the motherboards listed on the link would be a good choice if one wanted a straight-forward install?
    HCL 10.6.6 - OSx86

    (I also think the HCL could be organized differently, but that's a different matter.)


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    I never did find that list hugely helpful, maybe as a starting point. I got more info by spending my time on sites that were a little more specific.

    Some suggestions.....look at Kexts.com, they have some pre-built system configs. with a downloadable install ISO.

    Hackintosh.nl - Best Buy Guide V2

    The TonyMac site has another way of doing things that is very successful by all accounts and sounds quite easy.

    tonymacx86 Blog: iBoot + MultiBeast: Install Mac OS X on any Intel-based PC

    You could also check the install guides on the InsanelyMac site.

    InsanelyMac Forum

    Kexts also has a library of pre-configured DSDT's available for download. Find a mobo in your price range and then try and match a DSDT. Once you have that, throw in an older model nVidia card: 9600 or 9800 series. Once you have that you are 90 % there.

    http://www.kexts.com/cat/14-dsdt.html

    From what I have seen the TonyMac approach seems to be the easiest.

    Hope it helps.
    Last edited by Spike7; 03-31-2011 at 03:18 AM. Reason: added link

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike7 View Post
    From what I have seen the TonyMac approach seems to be the easiest.
    Thanks, that helps.

    But my experience is that following a sequence of detailed instructions is quite error-prone unless you understand what the different operations are supposed to do. In the case of the tonymac installation, there is the mysterious iBoot CD that apparently is needed besides a regular Mac OS DVD. Do you know what the iBoot disk does? Other installation instructions seem equally mysterious. A hint about what's going on would be nice.

    I am also wondering about hardware. Will any (say) 9600GT graphics card work, or are there differences between manufacturers?

    (I note that I have been upgraded from trial member to junior member. Yay!)

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    But my experience is that following a sequence of detailed instructions is quite error-prone unless you understand what the different operations are supposed to do.
    I agree completely. Too many people just want it to happen without understanding the process, in these situations they will never be able to react when something gets broken. Here is a link to a blog that helps to explain what is going on.

    EFI-X™ Opensource Alternative

    I am sorry, I have no experience with the TonyMac installation. I can hazard a few idea's about what is happening, but nothing concrete.

    From what I have seen any manufacturer's nVidia card will work (my friend is using Asus and I am using eVGA 9800 GTX+ - no difference). Not every model, though. People had trouble trying to use 7000 series cards.

    If you are looking at getting into development then don't you think the most compatible platform would be the way to go and therefore why not choose a real Mac. If you go with something low end (as you suggested) it would not cost a fortune and would eliminate any chance of your build ever getting "broken" by an update. Because in reality Apple could wipe out everyone with a single update from their servers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike7 View Post
    I agree completely. Too many people just want it to happen without understanding the process, in these situations they will never be able to react when something gets broken. Here is a link to a blog that helps to explain what is going on.

    EFI-X Opensource Alternative

    I am sorry, I have no experience with the TonyMac installation. I can hazard a few idea's about what is happening, but nothing concrete.
    OK. Yes, I have a vague idea about what's happening (initializing the boot sector, choosing hardware specific kernel extensions and so) but not more than that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spike7 View Post
    If you are looking at getting into development then don't you think the most compatible platform would be the way to go and therefore why not choose a real Mac. If you go with something low end (as you suggested) it would not cost a fortune and would eliminate any chance of your build ever getting "broken" by an update. Because in reality Apple could wipe out everyone with a single update from their servers.
    Yes, that what I was hinting at in my first post. Currently my plans are just to poke around a little and try out Apple's SDK. Let's see if anything ever comes of it.

 

 

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