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    Talking Help wanted for installation on Gateway laptop - thankyou.

    Hello, thanks for viewing this thread and hopefully you can help me with the problem I have with installing OSx86 on my Laptop.

    I have a Gateway W350a laptop, which has a AMD Turion 64 X2 processor and ATI Radeon graphics card with Realtek wireless, and I am having troubles installing on said device. I have tried 3 different distros of MAC OSX for pc, including iATKOS 5i (which I later realized is for intels. 'doh ), Kalyway 10.5.1 (which also wasnt compatible, double 'doh), Kalyway 10.5.2 (which said WAS compatible but apparently not) and iDENEB (the latest release, said Intel and AMD so I assumed it would work.)

    I have tried booting with every possible combiniation of boot commands it seems (-x, -s, -f, -v, Platform=x86pc, -legacy, Idlehalt=0, cpu=1, etc.) and none have worked for me with each of these. I have a disc copy of each of these so dumping them onto my hardrive using ImgBurn is not a problem if it requires doing so.

    Here are my results with each:


    Hangs up at Mac Logo (with circle spinning). Although I later figured out that 5i is for intels only, and AMD. Lol, my bad.


    Hangs up at Mac Logo as well, except this time with a stop sign above the logo and then it loads no more. Moving the mouse also causes the loader wheel to spin faster, showing that it has hung up?

    Kalyway 10.5.1 and Kalyway 10.5.2:

    Stops on the 'NTSC Partition v 3.1' Message. IDK what happened but I am confused.

    I have read that Lawless PPC Phenom and Zephyroth distros might helps but I cannot try either of these due to either lack of Torrent seeders (2 or 3? 1 kb download speed - yikes!) or lack of rapidshare/megaupload, etc. links (broken).

    I know I am a noob at this stuff and I appreciate you reading through all this and perhaps taking the time to respond and help me with my predicament.

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    Default Not enough info

    Wrong distros, old distros, no distro numbers - you have not supplied enough info. Explaining a mess will help no one help you. You got successful installs - you just never booted to a command line to see what is wrong.

    See - "Read first Before Posting" -

    Read this all the way through - but . . . you need to Google for your answers and do some research instead of relying on and expecting a spoon fed answer. Every machine is different. Visit the link at the bottom of this post.

    Here is a link to generically what is largely supported in IPC 10.5.6 iPC OSx86 10.5.6 Final PPF5 Complete driver list. | OSX86 does support on some of the newer more esoteric NVidia GPU's

    If it is not there in the list above or - it is not supported at this time - so do not cry you want it to be. do not expect someone here to spoon feed you a fix for free. This is a standard paste I use prefaced with a preamble to the question usually.

    After a successful install, and it does not boot all they way through then f8 at boot to the Darwin prompt, and then . . .

    You need to boot with -s. If it loads that to a command line, you've got likely kext problems. Then try -x -v so you can see where it stops, slows, issues errors or hangs. If you get in that way to a desktop you've got probably video kext problems. These can be LOTS of different problems depending on whose distribution you installed and how old it is. Get the newest one - right now which is 10.5.6. IPC has some issues with laptop keyboards not working after install - IDeneb seems to go better.

    Look for what loads and what does not load

    NO ONE can help you right now. You do not say what is wrong, you do not say what you did that does not work and you offer no clues as to your level of expertise as to EXACTLY where you are stumped. You just scream "please help me". Posting that you think you got it working without understanding what you did does not help either. You might now really have it working as it should be.

    If you go to a Medical Doctor and just scream "please help me" and will give no symptoms or clues as to what is going on - even a Doctor cannot help you but begin guessing - and guess what - they get paid to do so - no one here is being paid by you, and still the doctor could end up killing you rather than saving you because you did not tell a critic piece of information - like a severe allergy or something like that which could kill you in his efforts to help you. Computers - especially the OS's of computers are NO DIFFERENT.

    You do not say what is going on. No one is a mind reader here and were not sitting in front of your machine.

    Usually a Kext is likely probably not loading or blocking something - or the kernel panics. That means dies the horrible crash like a aircraft pilot would it the pilot panic'ed in an emergency situation and did not know what to do.

    The kexts are vendor and device ID specific - so if the kext does not have the right vendor and model ID referenced in the kext file - it will fail - or pass up the device anyway. The kexts ARE the drivers - and sometimes you only need to change or add the vendor and device ID.

    You have to figure this out yourself - it is YOUR machine. They are all different as to what is in the unit from the manufacturer, and even if using common device components - the vendor and device ID may be different that what the kext might have in it.

    If you have Windows still on the same machine - and it is working - you can do kext editing from inside windows by installing some helper tools to look into the HPS drive. Use Windows Text Editor - Editpad Lite (only one that will work) and Ext2Fsd 0.46 - An open source Ext2 File System Driver for Windows - Softpedia and Catacombae - HFSExplorer (HFS Explorer) to see and get at the Mac files in Windows; OR you can BUY Macdrive. If you are having dual boot problems try installing EasyBCD from inside Windows to boot between the two. Its free.

    This above will only work if you have been smart enough to do a dual boot machine where Windows is on another partition or permanent drive in the same computer. If Windows will not boot use a Vista repair disk or the XP disk to repair the boot sector - then install EasyBCD through Windows and it will see the MAC partition to let you set it up on the boot manager. Google how to get one if you do not have them.

    You can see the vendor and device ID in Windows, and the kext will have a name and you can find the vendor and device ID in the text of the kext info.plist. You can edit this from the Windows side with the editor above - and use no other - they will not work.

    After you get in through safe mode, you can run "diskutils repairpermissions /" (without the quotes) and to fix the changes you made from the Windows side.

    You come in single user with the -s command at the prompt. Do what it says to mount the
    volume and then

    You do a "sudo -s" first (no quotes)
    cd /System/Library
    chmod -R 755 Extensions /
    touch Extensions /
    diskutil repairpermissions /

    If you had trouble with the registration looping or other things then . . . after that above of mounting the volume make a password for root by typing

    passwd root

    Then when done type

    touch /var/db/.AppleSetupDone


    There are other ways to do this and much more from the -s boot option (single user mode) but it is really getting UNIX specific as to the commands, and if you are there and know nothing anyway - you should probably pay someone, buy a real MAC or just give up - OR get ready for a real extensive learning curve and research on the web.

    You need to do some research on how the MAC OS works. Match your kext families with the missing parts of the OS not loading - change the vendor and device ID's and one at a time - you'll get them working and the boot errors will go away.

    If you have/had IPC 10.5.6 ppf4 or ppf5 you would likely have most of the kexts - but they might not have the right vendor ID and device ID for the unit you are trying to install on.

    It works for both CPUs Intel or AMD. IDeneb 10.5.6. might go more successfully.

    Once installed, you need to boot in safe mode from the Darwin prompt with the -x option. Use -v also so you can see what it is loading and if it does stop in safe mode and where. Then you can try -v -f on another boot to see if it will make it all the way

    The MacOS is at it's core - UNIX - you cannot just lump a question in something and throw it here that is non-descriptive as to tell anyone not at your PC what is TRULY going on, even though I am a UNIX engineer.

    No one can help you if they cannot tell what is really going on - and if you are not ready to learn some UNIX - give up now.

    If you install the right kexts (Kernel EXTensionS) with the right vendor id's applicable the system will load them as it finds the hardware during the boot process. Remember the kext might be there - but have the wrong vendor and device ID - so it will get passed up.

    Read the clues of the boot process yourself and do some research as to what they mean and then if you have a specific question you cannot find on the Internet or in the forums - that someone can identify - post that.

    Of course you can always BUY a real MAC, and then holler "please help me" all you want to Apple Computer Support, and at some point they will tell you the same thing.

    If you install the right kexts (Kernel EXTensionS) with the right vendor id's applicable the system will load them as it finds the hardware during the boot process.

    Read the clues of the boot process yourself and do some research as to what they mean and then if you have a specific question you cannot find on the Internet or in the forums - that someone can identify - post that.

    Visit the Main Page - OSx86 for the best source of simple question info

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    Thumbs up Er- thanks.. I guess?

    Sorry for any inconvience, I just didn't know where to go for help.

    Yes, I have been googleing for days now trying to find how to do it on my machine, No I can not even get a successful install - letalone even boot into the installer, Yes I have tried all the different commands such as -x, -v, -f, -legacy, etc. etc., and I thought I made it clear what machine I am running and the main components to it.

    I thought I provided sufficient information in my post reguarding my problem - I guess not. Any clarification on what else needs to be added would be nice - but then again that would be 'spoon feeding', as depicted in your pre-made letter, I suppose?

    This bites. Here I thought maby this forum would be helpful, or atleast have a little manners towards noobs. I gues OSx86 really isnt noob-friendly, I probobly should just move on to windows 7. Bummer.



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