View Poll Results: How Satisfied Are You After Unlocking ?

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  • Could've been better

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Discuss Can I Just Unlock the OS ? (not the sim) + Basic Doubts at the Hardware Unlock - Hackint0sh.org; Hey guys, I've already booked an iPhone (which arrives at Aug 22 in my country) ...
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    Wink Can I Just Unlock the OS ? (not the sim) + Basic Doubts

    Hey guys, I've already booked an iPhone (which arrives at Aug 22 in my country) and I'm presently looking at the possibilities.

    Here's my situation. I'm very happy with the carrier thats gonna come with the phone. So, I'd like to get just a software unlock. See these are things which annoy me about the iPhone :

    1. iPhone Can't Minimize Apps
    2. Bluetooth Doesn't Allow File Transfer
    3. Impossible to store anything except music (damn!!!111 )
    4. Supports only m4a movie format
    5. App Installation Restrictions


    To make it easy for you, I'm gonna list down my doubts down here :-

    1. Can unlocking solve all the above problems ?
    2. Can I keep the same SIM after unlocking ?
    3. Will I get bricked automatically in a Windows system with iTunes ?
    4. Can I use Official App Store after unlock ?
    5. Whats the "Kill-Switch" I've been seeing lately on news ?
    6. Is Unlocking reversable ?
    7. Is there any other way than unlocking to solve above probs ?


    I know, thats a lot. But, pls help me out guys. And believe me, this would help 1000s of others than it helps me. I'm sure a lot of other n00bs are awaiting expert answers to these questions.

    Thanks in advance. Cheers.



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    First, you have to know the difference between unlocking and jailbreaking.
    Unlocking is enabling your phone to work with any carrier. Jailbreaking only opens up the software, so that you can download third party applications (not through AppStore) and SSH into your iPhone, and have near-complete control over the software.

    Now since your phone is from abroad, it will be locked to a network from that country. So it will not work on your own home iPhone network. I would suggest you buy a phone directly from your network in your country (so you can just jailbreak, without unlocking - easier)

    Now, your doubts:

    1. By jailbreaking, you can download software that is not available on the AppStore due to Apple's restrictions.
    iPhone cannot minimise apps, but a new version in September will enable Push Notification, which is kind of better than minimising (Google it).
    As for bluetooth file transfer, this is not available yet although I've seen some programmes for file transfers.
    You can store Music, Photos, and you can also store other files by using third party applications. So you can view .pdf, .doc etc...
    The apps installation restrictions is overcome by Jailbreaking your phone.

    2. You mean, keep the same SIM after jailbreaking? Yes you can. You can also do that after unlocking.

    3. No

    4. Yes

    5. Should an app leak into the App Store and it causes problems in phones, Apple has the ability to disable the application on ALL iPhones. Nothing you have to worry about.

    6. Yes

    7. JAILBREAKING is the only way to solve

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    Naysnay, thanks a million for the response. It was just what I needed. I'm really disappointed about the screwed up bluetooth in the iPhone. Hope Apple comes to its senses in the future.

    Wow, I can use the official App Store even after unlock ? Thats awesome. I'm very sorry but I've some more questions down here :

    1. Will JailBreak Void Warranty ?
    2. Can I get Warranty back by undo-ing the jailbreak ?
    3. Are Jailbreak softwares reliable ?
    4. I heard somewhere - "There aren't any unlock/jailbreak s/w for iPhone 3G yet". Whats with that ?
    5. Are you sure I can use Official App Store after unlock ?
    6. Will Jailbreak harm my hardware in anyway ?
    7. Is the SSH included in Jailbreak same as BASH in Linux ? (hate to admit it but I'm a linux nerd)


    You're probably so angry, you come here on a warp drive and zap me to death. But pls know my situation as a newbie. Hope I'm disturbing anyone's time or spamming Hackint0sh. Peace out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowmonger View Post
    Wow, I can use the official App Store even after unlock ? Thats awesome. I'm very sorry but I've some more questions down here :
    1. Will JailBreak Void Warranty ? -> Maybe, I think so
    2. Can I get Warranty back by undo-ing the jailbreak ? -> Yes, restore to apple FW
    3. Are Jailbreak softwares reliable ? Yes, if you use Pwnage
    4. I heard somewhere - "There aren't any unlock/jailbreak s/w for iPhone 3G yet". Whats with that ? -> jailbreak yes - Unlock not so far (3G)
    5. Are you sure I can use Official App Store after unlock ? -> I do, you can aswell
    6. Will Jailbreak harm my hardware in anyway ? No, if you use Pwnage
    7. Is the SSH included in Jailbreak same as BASH in Linux ? (hate to admit it but I'm a linux nerd) -> No, but you can load it via Cydia/Installer direct on the iPhone


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    1. i Don't know if it will void it, but it's known that Apple wont help you if they notice your iPhone has been jailbreak'd or Unlocked.
    2. As long as they don't notice... , Just restore back with an official image, and you'll be just where you started
    3.Pretty much , with the new pwnage tool, quickpwn, i'm still to hear about a failed jailbreak (that's no error by the user)
    4.There's no unlock for 3G (yet) , jailbreak it's possible (on 2.0, 2.0.1)
    5. You can...
    6. No, it wont, jailbreak fakes the OS into believing it's been activated (also called hacktivated) nothing at a hardware level
    Note: given the case something unusual happens when restoring (like disconnecting your phone before it's done....something wrong can happen , but 99.99% of the times it's fixable by just put your phone on DFU mode , and restoring )
    7. Not completly sure... but it's actually pretty similar.., but from BSD, before it was called BSD subsystem) basically they port bsd/linux utils to the iPhone (wich runs mac os x mobile, based on Unix)


    damn , a little too late .... i'll leave it for the sake of it
    Last edited by adajet51; 08-19-2008 at 08:45 PM. Reason: beat to it


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    Lol, adajet51. And thanks volkspost and adajet51 for your valued replies. Boy, I've learnt a lot from coming here. Hats off to Hackint0sh. Anyway, I need to get sleep. Its past midnight.

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    But since you're getting an iPhone from abroad, you still need to unlock it. An unlocking an iPhone 3G is a hassle. I unlocked mine with TurboSIM.
    If you need help with that contact me.

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    minor correction ...
    turboSIM or usage of piggy back SIM is not unlock
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtube View Post
    minor correction ...
    turboSIM or usage of piggy back SIM is not unlock

    True.. I'm sorry.
    It's just a way to get around the network and make calls.

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    Hey guys, one of my friends in the U.S told me its possible for him to send me an iPhone.

    Since iPhone is available here via Vodafone or Airtel, if I put a Vodafone/Airtel simcard in the set, can I bypass unlocking ?


 

 
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