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    So... What is to stop Apple from suing IPSF, subpoenaing their list of IMEIs and iPhone serial numbers, and then doing a global IMEI ban on those handsets?

    Just curious.



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    As far as I know, it's not illegal. Thus Apple has no case. Might be wrong though, just what I've heard.

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    Also I imagine a global IMEI ban would involve talking with every international operator - some of whom wouldn't care about Apple's requests (especially those who pitched to be the providers of iPhone in their region but were rejected by Apple). You can't just have one company going around telling GSM operators to ban every unit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvydra View Post
    So... What is to stop Apple from suing IPSF, subpoenaing their list of IMEIs and iPhone serial numbers, and then doing a global IMEI ban on those handsets?

    Just curious.
    It's the telcos who have to ban an IMEI from their network.

    Do you really think all the 400 GSM carriers around the world, from Armenia to Zimbabwe are going to say, "Hey customer, who is paying us $xx each month, big bad Apple doesn't like you, so off our network you go, no more cash from you, we don't want it."

    Hmm.

    And for Apple to want to do that to its biggest fans (fans who have gone to the trouble of importing it because they love Apple products), do you really think they'd want to piss those people off so much?

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    So there is no "global" IMEI ban list?
    That's encouraging...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Benjip View Post
    Also I imagine a global IMEI ban would involve talking with every international operator - some of whom wouldn't care about Apple's requests (especially those who pitched to be the providers of iPhone in their region but were rejected by Apple). You can't just have one company going around telling GSM operators to ban every unit!
    Re: and IMEI ban. Would never happen Ben. Aside from the technical difficulties with doing so, a "banned" IMEI means that your operator will "ban" themselves from revenue.

    No, Apple probably won't go after IPSF since the laws are very iffy regarding unlocking. What I expect they'll do is correct this "problem" in future firmware releases. It probably won't come in 1.03 or in 1.04, but I'd expect that in 1.05 (or the first version that supports Leopard).

    The "full" software re-write will permit them to undo this patch? Don't know. Perhaps they'll do it immediately, but doing things quickly tend to break other things and Apple is afraid of bad press with the iPhone. Thus, if they can't do it via software, they'll make it so that you can never sync your phone with iTunes again.

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    of course it is possible for providers to lock your phone by identifying it's imei if they want.

    it happened big time some years ago where i live. there was a function on one of the very first sony phones (z1 or t1 i think it was called - before they joined with ericsson). my provider didn't like this function and locked out all phones of this model. no shit.

    if your phone is stolen you can also have it locked out if you know the imei

    however, as someone said apple would probably have to talk to every provider in the world.. doubt this is gonna happen.

 

 

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