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    Default Will the European iPhones be locked?

    I have read that the carriers will no doubt require a 2 year contract - but the phones themselves won't be subsidised and therefor are able to be unlocked.

    Does this sound right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzielad View Post
    I have read that the carriers will no doubt require a 2 year contract - but the phones themselves won't be subsidised and therefor are able to be unlocked.

    Does this sound right?

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    I'm afraid Apple is rumoured to use a similar iPhone marketing/distribution concept as in the USA. Apparently only subsidised LOCKED phones will be available for around 450/500 Euro with a two year contract.
    First countries to get the iPhone are rumoured to be France, Germany and the UK.
    Start date in Germany: earliest September 1st and latest around November.
    Rumoured cell service provider in Germany is T-Mobile.
    The technical specs of the Euro iPhone are rumoured to be very similar to the US iPhone with the exception that the Euro iPhones apparently get MMS.
    Rumours don't indicate a 3G capability, so I suppose the Euro iPhone will be EDGE too.

    Hope this helps a little bit to shed some light on the Euro availability.
    Again: rumours.

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    The cool thing about selling the phone in Europe, is that many countries require the carrier, by law, to supply it's customers with the SIM-lock code upon request. I'm not entirely sure about Germany and France but this law applies to the UK.

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    I reckon apple will use exactly the same model with a diffeerent firmwave locked to whatever provider they choose, it far cheaper to that a new handset manufacturing.
    Also from what i have read around here the UK doesn't seem to have EDGE so it will be interesting to see where they come out.

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    3G...!!! :p


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    Quote Originally Posted by 997TT View Post
    Rumours don't indicate a 3G capability, so I suppose the Euro iPhone will be EDGE too.
    Met with a customer a couple of days ago who is supplying parts for the radio of the iPhone. He told me that there are actually 3 iPhone radios in production: Two different EDGE platforms (where they won the contracts) - and one 3G platform (where they didn't get the contract for). So there is definitively a 3G iPhone coming - but it's not clear when and where.

    cu/

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    Maybee thats the plan to release a 3G phone several months after the EDGE one and get everyone to buy a new phone who already has one then they will sell the 10million like they planned. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonads View Post
    Maybee thats the plan to release a 3G phone several months after the EDGE one and get everyone to buy a new phone who already has one then they will sell the 10million like they planned. lol
    Or may be Apple starts the 3G iPhone in Europe. There are only few network providers offering EDGE in their networks - but most of them are offering 3G (UMTS).

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    i dont' know about this, but check out this video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2m...motion-version

    seems to be on a french network called SFR .. and rooming is supposed to be locked for 2 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by petemag View Post
    The cool thing about selling the phone in Europe, is that many countries require the carrier, by law, to supply it's customers with the SIM-lock code upon request. I'm not entirely sure about Germany and France but this law applies to the UK.
    As far as I know, the law only requires carriers to provide the unlock code AFTER the contract has ended. Within the contract period, providers can charge the customer for providing the unlock code, T-Mobile for example is charging 99 Euro or so. Since there is no law how much cell phone providers can charge for the unlock code, theoretically they could ask for 200 Euro or even more and nobody could do something about it.

    Meaning: forget about these "cool" laws in Europe, they don't help much if you want to have an unlocked iPhone.

    Another thing: Apple and national cell phone providers could offer the iPhone as some sort of multimedia device with incl. iTunes Shop subscription instead of a phone. This would provide them with the opportunity to circumvent current laws, claiming that the phone function isn't the primary function and therefore the iPhone is not only a phone. Apple could even do a funny thing if they're "forced" to unlock the phone: they could block the iPod functions to avoid iTunes usage on unlocked phones and again...they win.

    Trust me...there is always a way, the question is only if Apple will make many friends using such marketing methods.


 

 
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