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    Default Using American iPhones on official European carriers come November

    I've been trying to piece together views and thoughts on whether it will be possible to take an American iPhone, return it to a locked state and then activate it officially come November when the EU phones are launched.

    I've got this little hypothesis going but I'm not technical and would love some feedback or comments from anyone, but especially those in the know

    I found this snippet of info on another site:

    The chipset is an S-Gold2, and don't come in the chat and give us links to PapaUtils, we can't use them. Now the iPhone only has one lock, a network personalization lock. This lock means the MCC(US=310) and the MNC(AT&T=410) must match the first six digits of the SIM cards IMSI. This check is done in the baseband firmware itself.
    This suggests to me that its the baseband firmware which checks the sim card and determines if the phone will work or not. If Apple go for one version of baseband firmware then it stands to reason that the fw will be coded to check for either an AT&T/US or O2/UK or T-Mobile/Germany etc sim card. If so that would indicate an American phone could be activated to work with O2 in November.

    But that leaves a question about how to ensure a phone cannot be used with a sim card associated with a cheaper tariff. Here, I don't think there are any checks made on this - I think its left to the activation process. A virgin phone needs to be activated to work at all. And unless you hack it, the only way to do this is via iTunes and that process involves you signing up to a contract. After that your carrier won't care what sim card you put in the phone.

    So as long as there's one firmware and baseband firmware it should all work? Does that sound a reasonable hypothesis? Could the carriers make further checks on IMEIs or restrict which IMEIs can connect to their network? They obviously aren't restricting them currently.



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    Stay tuned. Will let you know in a couple of days. Extremely impatient to get my hands on 1.1.1 irrespective of any nasty side effects like a lockout. Looking forward to the challenge and fun of struggling to find a way to "get back in."

    Just to answer some of your questions, US iPhone, EMEA iPhone, etc will be essentially identical with the exception of a larger flash disk. The BB as it stands is Int'l/Global.

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    Keep in mind as well that since the legitimate activation is handled via iTunes, your actual iTunes Store account is their other method of ensuring that you activate your phone in the appropriate country.

    My iPhone which was originally activated on AT&T regularly tried to "phone home" to the iTunes Store after a restore of the firmware. While the specific traffic was encrypted (or in the very least encoded in an unknown-to-me format), it seemed obvious that the iTunes was looking up the iPhone's "activation" based on the AT&T SIM card that was inserted into it.

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    Ah, some interesting points. Thank you both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbird View Post
    Stay tuned. Will let you know in a couple of days. Extremely impatient to get my hands on 1.1.1 irrespective of any nasty side effects like a lockout. Looking forward to the challenge and fun of struggling to find a way to "get back in."

    Just to answer some of your questions, US iPhone, EMEA iPhone, etc will be essentially identical with the exception of a larger flash disk. The BB as it stands is Int'l/Global.
    Same freaks in me.Eagerly waiting for 1.1.1 :-)

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