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    Exclamation Tapping&Cloning: Checking & Preventitive Measures?

    Ok, before I start with this, I would like to say I've pulled an all-nighter basically and have spent the last several hours researching into the following and have learned a lot (considering I knew hardly anything before I started) but still have found no direct or definite answer to my question (at least that are from the past year at least).

    I want to know if there is any way of finding out if my iphone (3G 3.1.3FW) is tapped to where somebody could listen in or remotely do anything (besides apple, obviously, or one of their 3rd parties).

    The short version of my story, because I feel the need to explain because I'm sure it all just sounds like a bunch of conspiracy crap that I should go build a tin foil hat happens like this: I get pulled over by the police on a routine traffic stop and get arrested for a "DWI" (at 1:30pm in the afternoon, and I hardly ever drink, and hadn't done any drugs in almost a month). However, this routine traffic stop spins out of control for no reason, and they tear my car the F*CK apart, DESPERATE to find something (I live in a CROOKED MFN county). Anyway, long story short, I'm arrested and they take my iphone from me after I'm handcuffed in the backseat of the squad car and say "we'll be in contact with you about it". Besides the worry of sensitive data on the phone that was probably seen in this illegal seizure which hopefully is deemed inadmissible in court, I'm worried if my phone has been tapped now that I got it back.

    Someone told me "there's an app for that" but I've yet to find it. Someone told me it's illegal for them to tap without a warrant, but they can clone my phone without needing one. I spent a few hours looking into cloning, and have determined it a lost cause by any of my own means, but police technology is probably more advanced than me, however everyone says that it's impossible to extract the KI number from SIMS v2 and up, which seems to be necessary in the process of cloning. Apparently there is no way to check for cloning (unless you have an unusually large bill, which wouldn't apply in my case), but I'm just looking for confirmation.

    In the past few hours I've found out that listening in through the microphone can be done without even a phone call being placed, and some claim to do so with the phone OFF. (flexispy, mobile spy, estealth, neo-call). And this isn't even talking about strictly government or police technology, but services to the general public to "monitor your texting teens!" or to "keep an eye on your cheating spouse!". Apparently there's no way to check for this either? S-Mobile apparently makes phone antivirus software, but the only one they have for iphone just encrypts your contacts.

    Maybe I've answered all of my own questions, but I would at least just like confirmation (or hopefully a solution) in knowing if my phone is tapped or cloned. And what I might be able to do about it.

    Oh, also I called my local AT&T store and reported it stolen (because it was...for 2 months exactly), and luckily (I guess) I was able to buy a new iphone for a discounted price. I wanted to keep my same phone number, not thinking ahead, and now I'm wondering that if in the possibility my old iphone is tapped/cloned (and let's pretend it is, I don't need any ridicule) would my new iphone be tapped/cloned also? Or would having a new IMEI throw it off?

    I feel like I have a lot of loose ends here, I'm desperate for help (google is usually sufficient enough). Any input is appreciated (as long as it isn't a repeat statement of something I've said =P ).
    Last edited by chinchady; 02-19-2010 at 03:43 PM. Reason: ocd

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    I know for certain public solutions can NOT, clone a sims v2/v3 card you are 100% correct, nobody in GSM field can do this, with regards to a 'tapping' the system itself iphone specific, lets say they have term-vt100 'recaudio' remotely issued and following you Around with a laptop SSH'ed to your iphone......ultra FBI haxz! nah, i doubt it very much ,,although i did hear the guy that released ikee got picked up by some shady goverment organisation for a new project.... modern gens cannot extract ki remotely like before, need physical access and new gen even with physical access nothing, new handset would have fresh stock OS so your really in the clear

    but to be fully safe, i recommend purchasing a case for your iphone and taping a aluminium roll inside it
    Last edited by Gecko_uk; 05-24-2010 at 02:40 AM.



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