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    Quote Originally Posted by 997TT View Post
    Can you sync iTunes DRM protected stuff with your T-Mobile card?
    Just curious, didn't try it. Do you have a hack activated iPhone?
    Mine's "hacktivated" with the DVD Jon PC method, I sync on my G4 iMac.
    Not sure about the DRM thing, all my music is mp3 ripped from my CD collection. I am able to sync audio and video podcasts from the iTunes store.

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    Those who are using the unlocked iPhones are probably not too worried about having to have EVERY new update right away. I'm more interested in just being able to use the phone and make calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathChill View Post
    Those who are using the unlocked iPhones are probably not too worried about having to have EVERY new update right away. I'm more interested in just being able to use the phone and make calls.
    Agreed! When I get my iPhone unlocked, I'm not going to update further until my t-mobile contract is finished (in a year). At that point I might just suck it up and go with AT&T, since I'm in the US.

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    Think about it...Secretly Apple cant wait for the iPhone to be unlocked to allow any sim, they would sell hundreds of thousands additional units, Apple also would not be responsible for breeching any agreement with AT&T as they did not supply the means to free the iPhone from AT&T (it might also be enough for Apple/AT&T to give us consumers the option to buy sim free for a premium so they can cash in on an official solution with full warranty)

    Now in the UK its looking like 02 may have secured the exclusive rights to the iPhone (Unconfirmed rumour) so what will happen when the iPhone is launched elsewhere, will Apple:

    Have to produce software updates specific to each carrier (At the moment with a single carrier thats managable but as the iPhone is launched in other countries it will become increasingly difficult) so I think a single update for all iPhones makes sense. (This should hopefully mean an unlocked iPhone will remain unlocked, but this depends on how the dev team produce the unlock)

    Will there be different iTunes vesions for each carrier (iTunes AT&T edition or iTunes 02 edition...etc or a single version for all carriers)

    There is a posability that Apple may be put under pressure by AT&T to produce an update that locks the phone back to AT&T and they may tighten the lock so it might be a case of 1 step forward and 3 steps back (Meaning the dev team have to re-crack several items that have already been cracked to get back on track cracking the iPhone again)

    Unfortunatly we will have to wait and see what transpires once the iphone is unlocked and when iPhone software updates become available.
    Last edited by logic; 07-30-2007 at 10:53 AM.

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    I don't think software updates will be diffrent for each carrier. The lock is in thr baseband NVRAM, this cannot be updated or flashed by apple with their updates.
    Whatever you do to the baseband firmware, this part will stay same, the firmware update will be same for any coutnry.
    You can just release the same update package to everyone, all needed to be added are more plist with localisations to the country languages in a newer revision (not that hard) and maybe provider logos (not hard either).
    Everythign else is usable no matter where you are.


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    I have put drm protected mucis and videos on my iPhone. I'am not in the US and i did not activated by AT&T. So that is not a problem. Same as the thing with another carrier sim. I could sync my phone. No problem

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    i actually am suspicious of the fact that there hasnt been an update since it came out. we are all aware of the flaws, mostly minor that the phone has, which could be fixed by a simple update. my thinking however, is that they are waiting until everything is unlocked, to immediately release the new firmware which will screw it all up again.

    with regards to apple wanting the iphone to be unlocked, id like to refer to the case of the drm used to lock in songs bought through itunes. any time there is a breach, apple works quickly to fix it. it is part of apple's agreement to maintain the security of their own drm or else the record labels will withdraw their support of the music store.

    soo theres my conspiracy theory. they await an unlock, so that they can patch all the holes all over again and make yall at the dev team start from square one.

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    with regards to apple wanting the iphone to be unlocked, id like to refer to the case of the drm used to lock in songs bought through itunes. any time there is a breach, apple works quickly to fix it. it is part of apple's agreement to maintain the security of their own drm or else the record labels will withdraw their support of the music store.
    With the DRM, apple has something to loose (record labels allowing them to sell their music) and it also enables the files to be shared with others (In essence loosing money for the artist/record company/apple) so I can understand this being fixed as a matter of urgency. If apple loose the exclusive deal with AT&T then Im sure there will be a queue of other carriers wanting a piece of iPhone

    The iPhone is different, it is a piece of hardware that everyone has paid $$$$ for, I don't think we will know how apple will react to the hack until it actually happens, I know I won't update my iphone until we get the all clear from the dev team....theres pros and cons to owning a sim unlocked iPhone
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    Things aren't that simple I'm afraid. I know somebody who works for Apple USA in a higher position (NYC branch) and he told me that Apple NEEDS to do everything possible to "fight" a possible unlock hack mostly because of their contract with AT&T. Another problem is of course the fact that Apple apparently wants to use the same marketing strategy (ONE cell phone service provider in each country) in Europe and Asia too, so these future "partners" are also very interested in keeping the iPhone LOCKED. What some people, including the US, don't seem to realize is that the price tag of the iPhone is the one of a SUBSIDIZED phone, no matter how much Apple pays for manufacturing the iPhone. I know that many people feel that they paid enough money, so they have the "right" to do what they want with their phone but things aren't that easy I'm afraid.

    I also think that future firmware updates won't hurt an unlock solution for the current (already manufactured) batch of iPhones but I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple adapting the soft-/hardware of the iPhone as soon as the first unlock hack is available. Any unlock solution hurts badly their strategy to offer their iPhones locked to a certain cell phone service provider.

    This may also be a reason why Apple hasn't offered a firmware update yet.

    Regarding future updates of Apple and the iPhone: I'm using a Nokia E90 as my "main" phone, the ONLY reason why I want (and need) the iPhone incl the phone functionality is the fact that it plays iTunes DRM protected videos/TV shows/movies. Otherwise there would be no logical reason to go for an iPhone. So if Apple starts to offer future firmware updates which may hinder the playing DRM protected stuff from their iTunes shop if the phone is unlocked, the iPhone would be completely useless to me. I have enough other (useless) gadgets to play with, I don't need another one.
    Last edited by 997TT; 07-30-2007 at 03:16 PM.

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    thats what i thought at first too, that unlocking the iPhone is a good thing for Apple, but it may not be 100% true. Although it is still more profitable for Apple if ppl buy the iphone to use with other carriers, Apple would rather there was no unlocking so at some point many would be forced to join ATT so Apple could get some portion of the monthly revenue. Of course, not all iPhone wanters would join ATT, but if in a year there was no unlock available, I'm sure many of us would be okay switching on to ATT.


 

 
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