O2 are quite adamant about this - is it true ?

source?

i highly doubt it, i think either you or them is confused with the fact that you will not be able to use any old O2 sim card it will have to be just the one due to the nature of how the iphone activates.

Originally Posted by otachi

source?

i highly doubt it, i think either you or them is confused with the fact that you will not be able to use any old O2 sim card it will have to be just the one due to the nature of how the iphone activates.

No, I am not confused. They are quite adamant about it in person, but I have also seen that on their website. They may be wrong but they are quite clear in what they are saying. Claim to already have stock in the back room as well.

totally just retail banter, they have no idea. IF someone ever made a GSM phone that you couldnt take the sim out of there would be trouble, completely defeats the purpose of GSM and someone would make a legal case of it.

Originally Posted by Tonyd

but I have also seen that on their website.

linky ????

Originally Posted by otachi

totally just retail banter, they have no idea. IF someone ever made a GSM phone that you couldnt take the sim out of there would be trouble, completely defeats the purpose of GSM and someone would make a legal case of it.

You might be right the SIMs are not removeable, but other than that wtf are you talking about? The UK is not the US.

Originally Posted by otachi

totally just retail banter, they have no idea. IF someone ever made a GSM phone that you couldnt take the sim out of there would be trouble, completely defeats the purpose of GSM and someone would make a legal case of it.

Absolutely true, they are not challenging a whole market.

Also, check this out from O2.co.uk faq:

Can I "unlock" the iPhone and use it with another network?
iPhone is restricted to use on the O2 network unless you are roaming. If you do not enter into and remain in an airtime agreement with O2 on one of our tariffs for iPhone, you will not be able to use the phone functionality of your iPhone.

If you attempt to unlock iPhone and use on another network, it may become permanently unusable. Making unauthorised modifications to the software on your iPhone violates the iPhone software license agreement, and the inability to use your iPhone due to unauthorized software modifications is not covered under your iPhone's warranty

To me, this mean you CAN unlock, so you can REPLACE SIMS too.

Cheer up!

Originally Posted by scratt

You might be right the SIMs are not removeable, but other than that wtf are you talking about? The UK is not the US.

uhhh wtf are YOU talking about? the uk is not the us. MY GOD!! when did this happen? dont we still pay taxes to the king of england?
your post really makes very little sense. especially since you quoted the other guy who had an actuall point. a gsm phone that cant have the sim removed and exchanged kinda DOES defeat the purpose. ESPECIALLY in europe! (hence the unlocked iphone in france...). might as well be cdma.... but whatever point it is you were trying to make, please, feel free to try again.....

Originally Posted by harshw

linky ????

O2 FAQ -

http://www.o2.co.uk/assets/O2HybridN...hone-FAQs.html

Looking at it again it says nothing of the sort, just implies it -

"Can I use the SIM card from my current mobile phone?
There's a SIM card already in the iPhone which you must use. You'll still be able to keep your existing number should you want to."

Just that when the O2 man who claims to have been on an Apple training course said it I had a vague recollection I had read it on the O2 FAQ.

Originally Posted by Tonyd

O2 FAQ -

http://www.o2.co.uk/assets/O2HybridN...hone-FAQs.html

Looking at it again it says nothing of the sort, just implies it -

"Can I use the SIM card from my current mobile phone?
There's a SIM card already in the iPhone which you must use. You'll still be able to keep your existing number should you want to."

Just that when the O2 man who claims to have been on an Apple training course said it I had a vague recollection I had read it on the O2 FAQ.

cool, reading it, seems to me that they are saying other SIM cards won't work. Not that you cannot remove the SIM.

what happens if your SIM gets damaged for whatever reason ? or if your phone gets damaged ? i don't think they'd make a "special" iPhone with a non-removable SIM just for UK.