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    Heys,

    In case of a successful outcome in hacking the iPhone, I was thinking - maybe it would be better if details about what led to the crack would not be made available publicly.

    Sure - binaries and all that, it's all good but the less details out, maybe the better. Gives less of a target footprint to Apple to "fix" in the next releases of the hardware.

    The thought behind this would be to keep this streak of "hackable" hardware/software going for as long as possible.

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    IMHO this would make us no better than them for making such a closed system in the first place

    If apple is determined enough to stop us from hacking the iPhone, I'm sure they could afford to do some reverse engineering of their own even if we kept things "closed". Besides that, we would create a logistical nightmare for us sharing new information.

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    If Apple released a proper SDK, then a lot of us would not have a need to hack the thing. I shouldnt have to break the TOS and void a warranty to add common features to something as "revolutionary" as the iPhone.

    Think of it as a big middle finger to Apple for their arrogance.

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    Look, that's just ridiculous. Apple's under no obligation to sell you an iPhone with those 'common' features attached or enabled, since it sells you a perfectly-functional device and you're not forced to buy it. It's a voluntary exchange, the iPhone as it is right now (a closed device) is good enough that people like me are willing to buy it. Nobody is shortchanged and nobody is robbed.

    Be honest, and admit there's no 'need' to hack the iPhone. We're not going to be saving any starving kids by gaining access. Instead, we *want* to hack it, to know its secrets, to customise it and unlock it. Why? Because we can, and AT&T sucks.

    Aside from a successful way to unlock the device, 99% of the interesting stuff done on the iPhone will go unnoticed by the world at large, just as the existence of Rockbox goes unnoticed by the legions of happy iPod users who really don't care for the functionality it adds.

    But so what? That's not the point. We'll try hack it to prove it can be done, even if only a dozen people end up using the resulting software/hacks. And if you're approaching this from an anti-Apple standpoint I think you've missed the boat already as Apple's done nothing morally wrong here. A closed platform isn't evil, it's just closed. By opening it up and adding functionality that's important to us, we are doing nothing more than customizing the device to our own impression of what's best, not liberating the oppressed masses.

    The only arrogance here, apparently, is yours. You would deign to take away the right of companies to sell their products whichever way they wanted to those willing to pay, just so that your personal preferences can be fulfilled? Take a moment to step back and think about your response to that.

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    lakshma, few days before the iphone got released i asked apple by calling them directly from france if the device would work(ipod and wifi) without getting the activation from AT&T and the girl over the phone put me on hold , asked her supervisor and confirmed to me that YES , the calling service has nothing to do with the device's other functions.
    SO I FUKIN BOOKED A FLIGHT TO NY from paris, because i was in love with that revolutionary UI small ipod/wifi product and then bought it.
    Now i pray that the best hackers in the world would get through the process to get it activated and hacked!!!
    I would have used the pay as you go plan to have it activated if i would have had an US credit card.
    Now i'm stucked.
    and yes i do feel robbed.
    The only reason apple hasn't got his device released in europe and everywhere else is because they are blackmailing cellphones providers to get more money over customers contracts.
    Amen they made a revolutionary product but no way they gonna obliged me to use their slave providers to get to use it.


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    I hate to say it, but honestly this is a hard lesson in life. You talked to people that make $5 an hour to answer all kinds of questions. They're instructed to make up an answer if they don't know, and sound authoritative.

    I'm truly sorry you had to spend so much time & money to discover this, but it's the way it is.

    Take some consolation in the fact that I wish I was in Paris right now, because every morning you wake up you can get fresh coffee and amazing pastries. We get utter shit over here.

    Aside: Can't you still use most of the functions by doing the "prepaid" method?

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    LOL for the pastries you are indeed right, they are so much valuable

    i tried to get to the pay as you go option page during the activation but with a fake ssn it didn't pop up, so i checked the regular plan (thinking i'll cancel it anyway) and it says "we need more time to activate your account, you should be receive an email soon... blabla..." i doubt my activation will work
    i wonder if i can come back at the beginning of the activation process, someone knows?

 

 

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