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    Default Preparations for the upcoming update.

    As an owner of an unlocked iPhone (T-Mobile US and loving it), I can understand why people are freaking out over the upcoming firmware update. However, I think that far too many of us are assuming the worst (which may be justified-but more on that later) about the update. Let's review what we know.

    1). There is an update coming. We've known this since Apple posted screenshots on the iPhone rebate site, which was followed in turn by the European iPhone demonstration that featured the new firmware. Earlier tonight, Apple themselves issued a press release stating that there will be an update--and they confirmed every iPhone hacker's fear: that the new update may break the unlock. HOWEVER! This does not necessarily mean that the new firmware will. Why? keep reading.

    2). The European phones are running a different modem firmware. Allright, you're probably wondering why this fact is significant. Here's why: Just because the European iPhones are running a different modem firmware does not mean that the Americans are going to get a new firmware as well. I'm not 100% sure about the differences between American and European carriers, but it may be that the iPhone needed some changes to its firmware in order to work natively on European soil. Yes, I know that you can use an iPhone in Europe, both via roaming and unlocking, but there are some compromises; namely, the loss of visual voicemail. It may be that the new firmware allows for visual voicemail to be used in Europe, and therefore may not be part of the American update.

    3). The iPod Touch's firmware has proved resistant to hacking thus far. Despite the efforts of some of the Dev Team's best, the iPod Touch has proved resilient to jailbreak and, therefore, modification. This does not bode well for the next iPhone update; because the two devices are so similar, it may be that the two firmwares are very similar as well. HOWEVER! This does not mean that the next iPhone update will deactivate the hacked iPhones. Think about it: how on earth could iTunes know if a phone is unlocked or not? As far as my iTunes knows, I'm on AT+T--it even displays my phone number in the main iPhone window, something I thought wouldn't work after an unlock. Since all iTunes knows is that my phone is activated, there is no reason why it should deactivate my iPhone after an update. Now, an update will likely delete all my third part apps, and make it impossibly hard to get write access to the phone, but I can't imagine how it would know to deactivate my iPhone outright. Put this and my previous point together, and I still have a basic working iPhone--granted, one without 3rd part apps, but still better than a deactivated brick. All that said, though, there is a chance that Apple will somehow know that I've hacked my phone, and deactivate it anyway. Which brings me to my next point:

    4). We're not gonna be back at square one. The Dev Team did a great job on the iPhone, hacking a completely closed device into one that could work on any compatible network and with a myriad of third party apps. It did take them a few months, but that's perfectly acceptable given the nature of the project. And now, on the brink of the next update, it looks like the Dev Team's gonna have to start again from the beginning--or will they? I think there's one vitally important thing that people are forgetting: once the Dev Team opens up the new firmware for write access, it'll be a cakewalk to roll back the firmware and re-preform the unlock. All we're gonna need to wait for is the write access. Yeah, it may take them a few weeks--months, even--but in the end, as soon as we get write access, the unlock will likely be up and running again. But for those who can't wait, there's still fact number 5...

    5). YOU DON'T HAVE TO UPGRADE YOUR FIRMWARE. Pardon me for shouting, but I don't think I can emphasize this point enough. Despite all that I've mentioned in this post, I don't have any intention to update until I know exactly what it's gonna do to my iPhone. Yeah, I'm gonna miss out on the nifty music control shortcut. Yeah, I'm gonna not have the Wifi iTunes store. Yeah, I'm not gonna get the bug fixes. And you know what? I think I can live with that, at least until the Dev team can get things sorted out. And they're gonna. I may only started posting here recently, but I've been lurking around on the outside, reading the forum, watching the IRC talks, ect. since the early beginnings of this effort to free the iPhone and I have complete confidence in this (mostly) unknown group of gifted, fearless, unpaid software engineers. Bring on the update, Apple--We're ready for you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jopari View Post
    Bring on the update, Apple--We're ready for you.
    No we're not.. I still need to get the US in 4 days, and buy one. I'm worried that when I get to Hawaii on the 29th that all the phones will now have 1.1.1 pre-installed on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogGunn View Post
    No we're not.. I still need to get the US in 4 days, and buy one. I'm worried that when I get to Hawaii on the 29th that all the phones will now have 1.1.1 pre-installed on it.
    Allright then, Apple, wait for DogGunn first.

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    Hehe, yeah I wish. But, you've done well, good post.

    Won't Apple be able to lockout users if they've got 1.0.2 until they update?

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    why not order now and let it wait for you at someones house


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    ok I have an idea. but Iím not sure if it will work till it comes out.
    ok here goes > if you have already downloaded the restore 1.02 file to your pc and you have a 1.1.1firmware in your iphone, couldnít you just put the phone in restore(recovery) mode and select the file to restore to and do a downgrade or no?
    when you click on restore and press either shift or ctrl ( Iím not sure ) it will ask you to select the file and you could browse to the fw and select it.
    I havenít tried to do this from 1.02 to 1.0 but it might be possible cause if you could get into bootloader / restore mode even if the phone isnít jailbreak ( power + home )I think you should be able to force downgrade, but hey obviously we wont find out till it comes out

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    I had another idea:
    Why dont we wait to the update and see what happens? huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogGunn View Post
    No we're not.. I still need to get the US in 4 days, and buy one. I'm worried that when I get to Hawaii on the 29th that all the phones will now have 1.1.1 pre-installed on it.
    purchase a refurb from an apple store, that's probably your best bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by multigl View Post
    purchase a refurb from an apple store, that's probably your best bet.
    Wish i could... to bad the online apple store (US) doesnt take anything but US credit cards and US billing/shipping addresses

    PS if anyone has a work around for this please let me know

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    Maybe the update will only address the software unlocks... and the hardware methods such as supersim/turbosim will still work :-)


 

 
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