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    Exclamation A Potential Solution to the iPhone's Flash SMS Problem (i.e. webSMS/vMail alerts)

    OK, we're all aware of the problem regarding flash SMS (i.e. non-numeric messages that are received from web based SMS systems like Skype and Google, and voice mail systems), so let's start thinking about the solution.

    The current method that many are talking about here which involves reflashing the BB simply does not work. Why should it? The BB has been doing what it's supposed to do all along with Flash SMS (or so it seems) -- it's signaling receipt of the message to the CPU/firmware and then it sends it on up. At which point the CPU/firmware take over and write the Flash SMS to the SIM. If another one is received seconds later, the CPU/firmware will overwrite the existing Flash SMS. Remember a Flash SMS is not a normal SMS, but a broadcast of sorts.

    I have researched this problem a great deal, and contrary to what many people are saying, I truly believe that the phone knows how to interpret these messages and that they're just waiting to be splashed across your screen (the BB sees them and then they disappear meaning that they've been sent up to the firmware). You'll recall that many people have confirmed that if they remove their SIM from their iPhone and plug it into another phone, the message suddenly appears. It's for this reason alone, that I'm certain that if nothing's happening, then it's only because the phone doesn't know what to do with the message because it hasn't been taught to act on them???.

    Some assumptions which need to be true if we want to resolve this problem

    1. That the phone is able to interpret flash SMS messages and stores them on the SIM and in standard format.

    2. That the flash message are assigned a variable (key) that's different from normal SMS

    3. (Optional/meaningless?) That the Voicemail button has been pre-programmed to listen for this
    key and create a red, round circle with a number in it.

    Assuming the following assumptions to be true, then I think that resolving the voicemail SMS message problem is staring us all in the face.

    IF we can find the variable (key) that represents these special SMS messages (clearly they're different than normal SMS since the phone doesn't display them and/or react to them) and add this key/string to either the USSD.string and/or SpringBoard.strings files, etc., I'm wondering if this wouldn't solve the problem?

    I have to research this more, but since this is a forum I thought that I'd open this up for discussion and do it as a team as opposed to all by myself.

    Is this theory completely off the wall or is there something to this?

    I must say that if you're anything like me, the lack of vmail alerts has become quite annoying and I would really like to see it resolved if it is as simple as I make it seem above.
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    When I was running the 1.0.2 firmware I got all my voicemail notifications, then I upgraded to the latest 1.1.1 firmware and I no longer get the voicemail notifications. So 20 minutes before the upgrade I was getting them, then after the upgrade I don't get them anymore. Also the Edge settings don't get saved after you power down/up your iPhone, you have to enter them again.

    I'm running a legit activated ATT iPhone, using a Turbo Sim, running on the Rogers network in Canada.

    It sucks not having the voicemail notiifcations.

    I think in the new 1.1.1 firmware they set it to ignore the voicemail notification.

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    Thanks for the great summary post

    You may be interested to have a look at this app:
    http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8547

    He's just updated it to include a link to the SMS inbox of the SIM card. I've tried it out and it always reports that mine is empty, even after I should have just received a flash SMS so I think these are not stored on the SIM in the normal way. But i have no other phone to check whether I have some messages stored on the SIM, so it would be nice if someone with some messages on their SIM could test this?

    This issue is really bugging me as well, I hope we can figure out a solution!

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    I tried again yesterday: I had 2 new voicemail messages, so I was sure some SMS should have been received warning me of those. When I popped the SIM card in my S-E T68i, nothing appeared to be on the SIM card except for an SMS which I saved to it this weekend to check what would happen when I popped the SIM card in an iPhone with an SMS on it (it did not do anything with that 1 SMS).

    Maybe this website can help to explain some of the different types of SMS:
    http://www.developershome.com/sms/

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    I once and only one so far recieved a notification of voice mail. At the time I didn't have a voice mail but had recieved one earlier that day. So why that one time did it notify me? Its also never happened again.

    For reference I'm using the fido network via anysim.

    Also we know that visual voicemail only works when att network is availible, so users who were roaming get traditional notices. So the question is what triggers that behaviour, which would have to be roaming.
    one experiment would be someone goes into a roaming situation and leaves themself a voiceail, or we find a way to set he phone into a state which it believes it is roaming.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tego View Post
    I tried again yesterday: I had 2 new voicemail messages, so I was sure some SMS should have been received warning me of those. When I popped the SIM card in my S-E T68i, nothing appeared to be on the SIM card except for an SMS which I saved to it this weekend to check what would happen when I popped the SIM card in an iPhone with an SMS on it (it did not do anything with that 1 SMS).

    Maybe this website can help to explain some of the different types of SMS:
    http://www.developershome.com/sms/
    This tutorial is excellent, especially since it contains a listing of all the vital AT commands. Hopefully the iPhone supports the syntax described in this document. Will give it a try tonight and this weekend. In any event, thank you very much for this document.
    Last edited by Snowbird; 10-05-2007 at 08:58 AM.

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    Great article Tego! Look forward to seeing what Snowbird can come up with

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricochet View Post
    Thanks for the great summary post

    You may be interested to have a look at this app:
    http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8547

    He's just updated it to include a link to the SMS inbox of the SIM card. I've tried it out and it always reports that mine is empty, even after I should have just received a flash SMS so I think these are not stored on the SIM in the normal way. But i have no other phone to check whether I have some messages stored on the SIM, so it would be nice if someone with some messages on their SIM could test this?

    This issue is really bugging me as well, I hope we can figure out a solution!
    Thanks for pointing out iunknowns app to me. This app is really key and provides visibility of the content of SIM that we wouldn't normally have.

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    Most of the commands mentioned in that developershome website are listed in the supported ones on http://iphone.fiveforty.net/wiki/index.php/AT_Commands
    So I guess they should work...
    Maybe could also give some idea on how to implement delivery reports in the aSMS app.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tego View Post
    I tried again yesterday: I had 2 new voicemail messages, so I was sure some SMS should have been received warning me of those. When I popped the SIM card in my S-E T68i, nothing appeared to be on the SIM card except for an SMS which I saved to it this weekend to check what would happen when I popped the SIM card in an iPhone with an SMS on it (it did not do anything with that 1 SMS).

    Maybe this website can help to explain some of the different types of SMS:
    http://www.developershome.com/sms/
    This
    http://www.control.com.sg/at_commands_sms.aspx maybe also helpful.


 

 
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