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    Exclamation People Dont Be Fooled

    Until TRASH shows the proof that he has sent the money to IPSF it is him who is the scammer. Think about it people IPSF has nothing to lose at all by giving the 2500 licenses if TRASH really paid for them. The already sent the software it is generic and they have nothing to lose by letting you unlock your phone with it why would they cause trouble for themself when the free unlock is already available it makes no sense all they have to do is add the imei to the database and say we provided you with the unlock so we fulfilled our end its that simple they lose nothing it costs them NOTHING TO DO THIS.

    Now lets look at the other side if TRASH has not sent the money to them yet that means he has 2500 x $50 = $125,000 if he can some how convince you that IPSF ripped him off and he is not the bad guy he gets to keep $125,000 profit instead of 14 x 2500 = $35,000 which would be the difference if he pays IPSF.

    Again in summary it costs IPSF nothing to add the IMEI to the database they just make profit the system is already set up there is no reason to not add them for a paying reseller.

    The difference for TRASH is making $90,000 dollars extra if he can shift the blame to someone else and claim he is broke well at the same time pointing you to the free unlock so that you dont come after him with chargebacks or legal action also i wouldnt doubt if he has offered someone money to reverse the IPSF app with his own server so that he doesnt have to pay them and can still profit that could also be why he is stalling now.

    I would encourage everyone to stop this scammer just like everyone was doubting an unlock and said without proof you are not gonna believe the same applys here without HARD EVIDENCE that TRASH sent the money to IPSF we can not believe he did.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dfelix View Post
    ... we can not believe he did.
    We can, and many do...

    In fact, I have no reason to doubt it. Trash has been up front and very communicative though all of this... which you may have noticed if you've been around this forum for few months....

    I see this is your first post....!
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    He has posted proof that he wired at least $28k USD to them over on the Flea Market thread - there was an image at http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6...invoicend4.gif. And he clearly wired the money for the first 250 licenses to them since people received those.

    We know he collected at least 50x1500 = $75,000. So there's somewhere between $50k and $100k unaccounted for at this point. I do think we should expect a full accounting from him, and an effort to make people right for product that he didn't deliver.

    But we can't blame him for the fact that IPSF's unlock was so trivial that it was copied in 5 minutes. That's the part that's not his fault. If he delivers the product at this point, well, I paid 50 bucks for a product I didn't really need after all, but I got the service I wanted (my phone is unlocked). If he doesn't deliver anything, Paypal or Visa will give me my money back and they'll ream him out for it.

    Either way, give Trash a day to sort this out. In the meantime, unlock your phones people, it takes 5 minutes (and 20 minutes of waiting while bbupdater does its thing), and chill out. If Trash doesn't make an effort to sort this out during the next business day in Australia, *then* you can ream him out thoroughly. His name and phone number are well known, and people seem to know how to find him (unlike the IPSF guys). He ain't gonna disappear.

    In the meantime, it looks like everybody was right in the end, the people who said IPSF were scumbag scammers and the people who said they had an actual unlock. Turns out both are basically true.

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    I have been here from the start of this iphone craze i have been on IRC everyday just never posted in the forums. I have my phone unlocked with turbo sim either trash is paying you or you are just one of those people that try to be popular these are the facts and if you have no problem with someone making $125,000 off of nothing so be it.

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    Ok he has wired some but with your calculations he is still 50K to 100K unaccounted for and yes he owes it to his customers to prove this if he truly got ripped off.


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    ROFL @ deflix!

    Why would Trash pay me? Is that what YOU think it takes to be a decent human being? I guess we know the sort of person you aspire to be!

    Trash took a risk - but with guts and entrepreneurial spirit - more than most people did here. Why would I want to knock him for that? He didn't set out to defraud (or 'scam') anyone, and can't see that he has!

    It just makes me laugh when someone tries something like this, and makes a go of it, why people like you feel the need to think the worst of people and piss all over them and their achievements! At least HE tried!
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    Listen if TRASH is out money i feel for the guy too but im not gonna take his word that he is out money when it would be so simple to post the image like he did for the first 250 licenses now if your that kind of person that takes someones word on a forum with no proof that you dont know personallly my friend you have the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfelix View Post
    ...your that kind of person that takes someones word on a forum with no proof that you dont know personallly my friend you have the problem.
    Yep, you're right...

    But I was suffciently happy with what I did know about Trash to trust him with $50, and if I had got it wrong (which I don't believe I did), I could live with it.

    I think I prefer THAT problem to not trusting anybody...

    I still have a little faith in human nature
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    It doesn't matter if Trash kept the money or not. Nobody has any reason to believe that he did. But even if he did, you paid $50 to get your phone unlocked, and you get your phone unlocked. Why does it matter who has the money?

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    lets start 10 threads with the same purpose. SEARCH DAMN IT. Stop flooding the forums with multiple threads of the same topic.


 

 
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