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    Default A little surprised that Tmobile could tell I was using an Iphone

    Hmm... didn't see anyone else mention this here... but I was on my Iphone (with my tmobile sim transferred over to the Iphone) talking to the Tmobile customer rep at 611 about a different subject (trying to get the sim unlock code for my 2year old Razr that I bought with the tmobile service way back). Anyways, we're chatting along and the rep asks how I like my iphone cause it's showing that I'm using an iphone! I was surprised that they could tell! Anyways, it was cool - we chatted about how there's a software unlock now and he didn't know that the software hack existed! - in fact, he was interested enough he said he was thinking of getting an Iphone for himself now.



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    hey thats really intresting,
    which country are you located?

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    CPW (car phone warehouse) in the UK were interested to see my iphone.

    I asked in the orange store for a sim only month by month contract with unlimited data.

    They asked why would I want such a thing (its web only) showed them the iphone and they had never heard of it.

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    I'm in the US - California. I'm still a little shocked that they could tell what phone I was using... it came up when I was giving him the IMEI of my Moto Razr, but he was a bit confused because he said the computer was showing I was using an Iphone on Tmobile and thought I was giving him the IMEI of my iphone instead... up to that poin t I hadn't mentioned the word Iphone....

    Quote Originally Posted by pendalf View Post
    hey thats really intresting,
    which country are you located?

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    It probably broadcasts your IMEI or something? I have no idea, but that would make sense to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -cj- View Post
    It probably broadcasts your IMEI or something? I have no idea, but that would make sense to me.
    It is broadcasted to the network. But that's not all that's broadcasted. You user account information is sent along as well. Assuming that you call your mobile operator's support line, they know exactly who you are not only because of your CLI/NDI, but because of user account details that are stored on your SIM and set during each call. It's child's play to asked you phone to send an CLI/NDI that does not correspond to your phone (you do it more or less each time you tell the phone not to send your CLI/NDI), however it's very difficult to modify the details on the SIM which are used for billing purposes and are send along. Think of all the fraud that would result there wasn't a way to guarantee that the caller was the right person to bill for the calls.

    Re: the IMEI. The iPhone's IMEI is easy to spot since it is part of a range that was allocated to Apple and most network operators are able to update their databases to recognise the kit you're using.
    Last edited by Snowbird; 09-15-2007 at 12:11 AM.

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    Your IMEI is definitely broadcasted to your service provider. When I was using my iPhone with the AT&T GoPhone plan before the software unlock, they knew. I called them once to disable my edge service so I would not get charged and they knew I was on an iPhone, but couldn't do shit about it though, lol.

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    Ah, cool - that makes sense (broadcasted IMEI). That's good to know... if there's ever a reason in the future that I need to talk to Tmobile or any other carrier about service-related issues and I don't want them to know I'm using an iphone, I'll make sure to call from a landline...

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    Quote Originally Posted by timriley View Post
    Ah, cool - that makes sense (broadcasted IMEI). That's good to know... if there's ever a reason in the future that I need to talk to Tmobile or any other carrier about service-related issues and I don't want them to know I'm using an iphone, I'll make sure to call from a landline...
    Your operator could care less if you were using an iPhone or a toaster with a SIM card installed in it that uses a car battery for energy. All they're interested in is 1) that you make lots of calls and send lots of SMSs and download/upload at least 1GB of data per month without a unlimited data plan, 2) that you remain with them forever and 3) that you get all of your family, friends and the in-laws to "come on over...."
    Last edited by Snowbird; 09-15-2007 at 12:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbird View Post
    Your operator could careless if you were using an iPhone or a toaster with a SIM card installed in it that uses a car battery for energy. All they're interested in is 1) that you make lots of calls and send lots of SMSs and download/upload at least 1GB of data per month without a unlimited data plan, 2) that you remain with them forever and 3) that you get all of your family, friends and the in-laws to "come on over...."
    ROFL on the toaster.... i got a mod coming..

    The iToaster!

    Makes Toast with Apple Symbol...Browses web...Makes calls/sms...


 

 
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