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    Default jailbreak guys, have you got your bills?

    To those who use the iphone with a AT&T SIM and the non ATT activation

    I am already an ATT customer with a family plan. iphone was very interesting to me, so I called ATT and asked about it. I was told I just needed to add the iphone data plan to the line on which the iphone is used.

    Now I am debating. The ATT Edge network is too slow, so I don't want to pay $20 per month for it. I wonder if I could avoid paying for the data plan, but jailbreak it and use it on my current family plan.

    Anybody has done the same, and received the bill from ATT? Has ATT "upgraded" your plan automatically or do you get extra charge?

    Your info is very much appreciated.



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    I've done it. I jailbroke it on a current AT&T family plan, and it DOES NOT upgrade. My dad new so we didn't use the web stuff much, but even our small tests got us a 90$+ to our bill so it came to a 200$ bill this month. What I did was call AT&T support, transfered to the Apple support. I pretended like I had a problem with iTunes while activating, and that it activated my phone, everything worked fine (don't bother mentioning Youtube) but you didn't get your Unlimited Plan. After saying it a few times, i got forwarded again to a rep that knows more about it and she in the end upgraded our plans somehow so that she can add the Unlimited and Visual Voicemail, then said that if she finalizes it all the Voicemails on the plan will reset (all current saved voicemails, greetings, and passwords) will be reset. So my parents were ok, they reset it, and i have the iPhone Unlimited Plan with Visual Voicemail, on our family plan, and Ive never touched iTunes activation .

    [Edit] Oh I also forgot, you will need to provide them your IMEI number so they can add you to their system, because since you didn't activate through iTunes, your IMEI never got added to their system, and they don't have a record of your iPhone as if it doesn't exist.

    [Edit 2] Also, I'm not sure how it works with other Unlimited Plans on the plan you have. All I know is, this is the only way to get Visual Voicemail to work with Jailbreak.
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    Thanks for your reply.
    it's already very late on EST, so i was not sober enough to make myself clear. Let me post my questions again.

    I don't care much about visual voice mail or other data plan-dependent features. I tried the edge network in an apple store. It is too slow to be worth $20, IMHO.
    So I want to use the iphone on my family plan without adding the data plan.
    However, ATT knows (yes, many people have confirmed it) if we are using iphone.
    So I wonder if ATT, after knowing you are using iphone without the data plan, forces you to sign for it.

    You said that your small tests were a little pricy. That happened after you jailbroke the iphone and used it without data plan, right? I suppose, if I were to disable Edge on my phone, I would not be charged.

    [Edit] Oh I also forgot, you will need to provide them your IMEI number so they can add you to their system, because since you didn't activate through iTunes, your IMEI never got added to their system, and they don't have a record of your iPhone as if it doesn't exist.

    Could I make and receive calls in this case?

    [Edit 2] Also, I'm not sure how it works with other Unlimited Plans on the plan you have. All I know is, this is the only way to get Visual Voicemail to work with Jailbreak.[/QUOTE]

    VVM is cool, but $20 is too pricy. And once I sign up for it, I have to stick to it for 2 years.

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    Oh, ok I get what you mean. No it wont be upgraded, ATT has no way of knowing you are using an iPhone. You can use it fine without data plan or VVM. YOu dont need to do anything, just jailbreak and go. One thing though. You can't turn of Edge to my knowledge. so just make sure you dont setup any email accounts, or use Safari, and you will be perfectly fine. If you jailbreak it, you can even remove teh Safari and Mail icon from your the Sideboard. Youtube won't work, so you dont need to worry about that (but you can remove it also). same with all the other internet using features (Stock, Maps, Weather). Only the non-web features would be at your easy disposal. (unless you use wifi )

    So for what you say you need. Don't call, don't do anything, just jailbreak using your sim, activate and enjoy. Maybe hack it up a bit too.

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    Daegalus, really appreciate your input. Many thanks.

    I Do want to use the web/email applications on my WIFI networks, which are available at home & office.

    I am quite positive about two issues we have discussed:
    1. ATT DOES know the cellphone devices we are using. My accient cell phone is correctly shown in my web account. And breezie mentioned that ATT changed his/her account after detecting an iphone is used. This is the reason I am bring up my questions.
    http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3496

    2. Edge can be disabled. Several threads in this forum already. For example,
    http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/show...t=disable+edge

    I just want to point these out in case you need the info. Again, thanks for your info.


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    1. Actually, I don't know because when I called they asked me what phone i was using to call them, because they couldn't get the info to show up on their screen. Maybe a internal glitch on their end.

    2. Thx for the info. Kinda simple actually, should of noticed it myself

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    Default anyone else?

    anyone else has got bills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daegalus View Post
    Oh, ok I get what you mean. No it wont be upgraded, ATT has no way of knowing you are using an iPhone. You can use it fine without data plan or VVM. YOu dont need to do anything, just jailbreak and go. One thing though. You can't turn of Edge to my knowledge. so just make sure you dont setup any email accounts, or use Safari, and you will be perfectly fine. If you jailbreak it, you can even remove teh Safari and Mail icon from your the Sideboard. Youtube won't work, so you dont need to worry about that (but you can remove it also). same with all the other internet using features (Stock, Maps, Weather). Only the non-web features would be at your easy disposal. (unless you use wifi )

    So for what you say you need. Don't call, don't do anything, just jailbreak using your sim, activate and enjoy. Maybe hack it up a bit too.
    ATT has some way of knowing that you have an iPhone. I logged into my account the other day to check the bill and see what was going on and it told me that my phone was an iPhone. Last week it was a blackberrry.

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    Default any change on your ATT account?

    did you sign for any data plan before using your iphone? did ATT change your account after that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclemiltie View Post
    ATT has some way of knowing that you have an iPhone. I logged into my account the other day to check the bill and see what was going on and it told me that my phone was an iPhone. Last week it was a blackberrry.
    Does your bill show any extra charge b/c you use an iphone? I assume you sign up for a normal individual/family plan with ATT.


 

 
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