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    Isn't there like this law that GeoHotz mentioned that it was legal to unlock your phones for your own personal use? There is another law that requires the carrier to give us the unlock code for the phone, if this exists with the iPhone, right? Don't you think that At&t shouldn't make Apple to try to stop our unlocks. I know no one is forcing me to upgrade, but what about the pre-installed iPhones? Maybe apple should have made them downgradable or probally should have made a contract with t-mobile instead of at&t. Tell me what you think about this.

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    i think apple isn't trying to screwing us up.. they know that someone is going to crack it sooner or later, so maybe kmac's downgrade was a known issue on the iphone. but just to be cool with AT&T they made it a little harder this time .
    i still have faith that apple is nice with their loyal costumers.
    btw.. there's no software that's *uncrackable* because people isn't perfect and can't do a perfect job..
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    at&t has a far superior network to t-mobile. as far as gsm goes, cingular/at&t was the right choice in the us

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    There's an exception to the DMCA in the US that says that it's not a violation of that law to break software locks for the purpose of using the phone on another service. There is no requirement that anyone unlock the phone for you.

    While T-Mobile has much better customer service and voice rates, it would be hard to say given its smaller network and customer base that it was an appropriate company to have a monopoly on the iPhone either. The right choice would have been to sell it unlocked. Having to use AT&T is a high price to pay for the visual voicemail feature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nautical View Post
    at&t has a far superior network to t-mobile. as far as gsm goes, cingular/at&t was the right choice in the us
    Here in Illinois I would disagree with that, having had both AT&T and cingular, and now having T-Mobile. T-Mo's network, service and rate plans are far superior IMHO, and I've not had any dropped calls with them like I did with "the one with the most bars" crappy network. Loved getting voicemails 2 days after the fact with AT&T/cingular and calls dropping all the time...and then trying to stick me with early termination when their network wouldn't live up to the contract after 3 replacement phones with the same issues.

    Apple should have gone unlocked to let consumers make a choice


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    Quote Originally Posted by chewy106 View Post
    Here in Illinois I would disagree with that, having had both AT&T and cingular, and now having T-Mobile. T-Mo's network, service and rate plans are far superior IMHO, and I've not had any dropped calls with them like I did with "the one with the most bars" crappy network. Loved getting voicemails 2 days after the fact with AT&T/cingular and calls dropping all the time...and then trying to stick me with early termination when their network wouldn't live up to the contract after 3 replacement phones with the same issues.

    Apple should have gone unlocked to let consumers make a choice
    There is no T-MO coverage in SC at all the only store is in Aiken SC which is at the GA border, to get a TMO sim I had to call someone in GA I am using it just for testing already spent 30$ making no calls because of the roaming charges. BTW it shows SUNCOM carrier because it is the network Partner and soon to be subsidiary.

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    Hmmm... Interesting... I agree that t-mobile is a better network. If apple chose t-mobile, i bet they wouldn't make a "special plan" just for the iphone . Besides, at&t are forcing you to buy the internet and text messaging for $20 extra. iPhone plans start at 59.99 and family plans start at 109.99. I think thats outrageous. I'm paying 69.99, 79.99 at the most for a family plan with 3 lines with t-mobile.

    EDIT: The only way to not have an iPhone unlocked was to go with Verizon or Sprint. LOL
    Last edited by raycen; 10-02-2007 at 12:27 AM. Reason: forgot

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    Quote Originally Posted by nautical View Post
    at&t has a far superior network to t-mobile. as far as gsm goes, cingular/at&t was the right choice in the us

    LOL right. I have been with 3 carriers and AT&T was by far the worst. I have mine iPhone on tmobile usa and a buddy has the AT&T 1.1.1. I have to say, he sounds like shit on his iPhone and it must be the service not the phone. Really, I'm not just saying that. And we both live in NYC where every carrier puts forth their best to give customers lots of bars. AT&T reception, IMO sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GPUnique View Post
    LOL right. I have been with 3 carriers and AT&T was by far the worst. I have mine iPhone on tmobile usa and a buddy has the AT&T 1.1.1. I have to say, he sounds like shit on his iPhone and it must be the service not the phone. Really, I'm not just saying that. And we both live in NYC where every carrier puts forth their best to give customers lots of bars. AT&T reception, IMO sucks.

    Yeah. Because everyone knows nyc is THE city. Everyother city the carriers just half-ass it. And im sure your opinion isnt biased or anything...
    "I have tmo he has att. I think tmo is better. IMO...."
    That's funny cause I also have a friend who uses an iPhone on tmo and HIS reception is the one that sucks compared to my 1.1.1 att iPhone. Imo.

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    The rule is that carrier has to unlock your phone at YOUR request with the following items.

    1. you must be in contract with them for 3 months minimum.
    2. you must be in good account standing. (meaning no overdue bills)

    Now just call att and tell them your going on a trip to the uk and you need the phone unlocked for that time period. they have to unlock the phone for you. its the damn law. i have T-mobile and i've unlocked several phones through them. Some one should give them a call and ask because its been 3 months since iphone came out and im 99% sure they're not going to ask you for the ticket for the trip. (but you never know its att.)


 

 
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