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    Quote Originally Posted by aka_fx View Post
    Sure we need a software unlock solution, sure we can wait for it from the Dev team, if iphonesimfree dont release the software, but, communication is the base of the support !

    I can support, i can donate, you can communicate !
    Well we try to communicate the way we think its best to pubish

    - no useless stuff
    - quality research results
    (please remember who dumped the NOR, give you the fake cert activation etc., wrote the tools for it and is repsonsible still for most of the archivments)

    Serious work does not need 100 uber 31337 pics, you see output which is for someone technical posibly even unbelivable stuff. You saw since day oen what we can do, you are here even ont he forum all began. Put some trust in us if we say we are working fuckin hard on it. I think thats the only information one really needs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
    Your right I didn't think correct. I am not obsessed with greed as many of these people are. I was probably telling it from my perspective. (Not an attack on you)

    But you could be a little less insulting. It's late here, I have put many hours into a free guide for everyone. Sometimes I see it from a different view. All the stuff I have done is for free, I don't even care about payment.
    But your right, if you could make a dollar I am sure anyone would take the chance.
    Sorry for the "stupid". That was out of contest, you're right



    Quote Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
    If I ever sold it to you, I doubt you would crack it before someone else does and pirates it on the net. But, I would be keen to see your new Ferrari, personally I would invest the money.
    I would not even know how to start actually: i would hire someone like you....that then would post it for free...MMMM....i think my new 360 cabrio will have to wait...

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    So i speak about the actual communication... I know your work, i supported it, i donated for it.. no problem with that. i love your work !.

    The only one thing i say is : just put some message like "Hello World, no news today sorry guy but dont worry we work hard", just to say "we are alive".
    I dont speak about "tech" communication, i speak about "global, friendly" communication.

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    Both Apple and AT&T have legal entities in all major EMEA and Asia countries, as such it would be a mistake to think that they couldn't easily go after parties based in other countries.

    Here in Europe, Mobile operators and MVNOs reserve the right to SimLock phones. Whilst you can have that phone unlocked by 3rd parties and this is a very common practise, the relationship that Apple and AT&T have together is very unique in the sense that Apple makes the hardware/software and gets paid for it and AT&T supplies the services and provides Apple with a cut of whatever they make.

    Think about this and how very revolutionary it is. Apple intends to create similiar relations with all other mobile operators in all major countries in the world going forward. Pretty impressive, no? Currently, all of the European operators that Apple has contacted to support the iPhone are stalling and not signing the contracts to see what happens with the crack, since, you guessed it, if the iPhone is unlocked and Apple can't ensure an exclusive relationship with the operator selected in a given country, why would they be willing to promise Apple any kickback of their customer's phonebills if you can use anyone's Network?


    The thing is this, IPhoneSimFree will produce the crack. Will probably make lots of money off of it if they have managed to reuse the same protection that the iPhone employs to prevent others from making this crack public domain for free, and they get shutdown....

    After which, Apple will study the crack fully and all other projects that the Dev team and others have made/are making and come up with a 2nd generation phone sometime in Dec. that will be much more secure.....

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    Both Apple and AT&T have legal entities in all major EMEA and Asia countries, as such it would be a mistake to think that they couldn't easily go after parties based in other countries.

    Here in Europe, Mobile operators and MVNOs reserve the right to SimLock phones. Whilst you can have that phone unlocked by 3rd parties and this is a very common practise, the relationship that Apple and AT&T have together is very unique in the sense that Apple makes the hardware/software and gets paid for it and AT&T supplies the services and provides Apple with a cut of whatever they make.

    Think about this and how very revolutionary it is. Apple intends to create similiar relations with all other mobile operators in all major countries in the world going forward. Pretty impressive, no? Currently, all of the European operators that Apple has contacted to support the iPhone are stalling and not signing the contracts to see what happens with the crack, since, you guessed it, if the iPhone is unlocked and Apple can't ensure an exclusive relationship with the operator selected in a given country, why would they be willing to promise Apple any kickback of their customer's phonebills if you can use anyone's Network?


    The thing is this, IPhoneSimFree will produce the crack. Will probably make lots of money off of it if they have managed to reuse the same protection that the iPhone employs to prevent others from making this crack public domain for free, and they get shutdown....

    After which, Apple will study the crack fully and all other projects that the Dev team and others have made/are making and come up with a 2nd generation phone sometime in Dec. that will be much more secure.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by aka_fx View Post
    So i speak about the actual communication... I know your work, i supported it, i donated for it.. no problem with that. i love your work !.

    The only one thing i say is : just put some message like "Hello World, no news today sorry guy but dont worry we work hard", just to say "we are alive".
    I dont speak about "tech" communication, i speak about "global, friendly" communication.
    Be ensured as long this forum exist and IRC we are alive Work is hard and tiresome, we do it in our free time beside the job sicne 2 months each day, on weekends and in free minutes. Thats a huge thing, but we want to get you and the others around here a free unlock, even if we could make more $ with it than I will earn the next 30 yrs, do I care? I belive in a idea, so do others and there will be a solution soon or alter and it will be free. Furck the commercial stuff, I made my position to this clear more than once, the same goes for the others.

    I hope this explains the situation a bit and gives you back some hope
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    well the communication of the Dev team is through nothing but their work...its the best way!! Come on guys!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam View Post
    Be ensured as long this forum exist and IRC we are alive Work is hard and tiresome, we do it in our free time beside the job sicne 2 months each day, on weekends and in free minutes. Thats a huge thing, but we want to get you and the others around here a free unlock, even if we could make more $ with it than I will earn the next 30 yrs, do I care? I belive in a idea, so do others and there will be a solution soon or alter and it will be free. Furck the commercial stuff, I made my position to this clear more than once, the same goes for the others.

    I hope this explains the situation a bit and gives you back some hope
    Come on Sam, they haven't got an unlock! That's 100% scam that can never be proved to be such. So don't even mess your brains with that! Keep on working! You'll see another excuse from them soon.

    P.S. Give us some reports if it makes some people happy. That won't really trouble you a lot. Just post some info about your work process. Say, some stories or else...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzielad View Post
    So, what's 2% of 130,000? Hmmmm... 260 people? Where are they?
    Actually, 2600

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonyd View Post
    Actually, 2600
    Heh. Wonder how many here are old enough to remember.


 

 
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