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    Default Don't say I haven't told you...

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    I don't know if AT&T's lawyers went after the well known unlock companies, it may be so, it may not. I can't see how and on what legal grounds AT&T's lawyers put these companies under pressure, I can't also see why AT&T and not Apple.

    AT&T doesn't offer any cell phone service in the UK (where the companies are apparently based and registered), AT&T doesn't even offer the iPhone in these countires. Even worse: Apple doesn't offer the iPhone in these countries, so on what legal ground do they threat these two UK based companies?

    To be honest: I was sure that "something" will happen which prevents these companies to offer the unlock. Lawyers? Maybe. No matter what reason, it is a good excuse. :p

    Don't say I haven't told you but maybe some of you guys should:
    1. grow up
    2. get real
    3. turn on brain first, then talk/write

    So now you want an unlock from the Dev Team? Well...after all that BULL which has been posted by many of you, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't care anymore.



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    I think everyone is pursuing other methods due to the lack of updates on this site / the dev wiki. Even a small update saying "we're still on it guys!" or "we are nearer to working it out" would do.

    Everyone is grateful of the dev team's work, although if they spent all day posting about it you guys would probably get a bit tired of that too.

    Personally, I thought this was all BS from the start (iphoneunlocking/iphonesimfree). The engadget article / video was sketchy too (with regards to iphonesimfree) imho.
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    if someone comes up with the SOFTWARE unlock, im willing to pay for it
    (even though GEOHOT said it should be done for free)

    im just scared of the soldering method, im waiting solely for the software unlock, if it ever comes out

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    Look what happened after Geohot went publich with his findings.
    This is no time to give out too much information about the progress of the unlock.
    Once it is achieved, it (software, instructions) should be posted VERY FAST and people should start distribute it on the net through different channels before AT&T and Apple start to fight back. IF. Since the internet is a very large community, they have no chance in stopping it. This is actually the good part: they (AT&T and Apple) go after the commercial companies who offer the unlock to a huge audience but they (hopefully) leave alone us "freaks" who may not be THAT important to them since we are only a handful compared to the number of iPhone users out there, especially in the US. Not to forget about the fact that going after a FREE community and individuals with lawyers would be the WORST press AT&T and Apple could get, so there is no real sense in doing that.

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    The biggest bummer is calling at 3AM. If it were to be real the would have send a legal team.
    How can you guys believed and gave IMEI. This is the biggest joke. email id is OK.
    Engadget video is fake one. See how the hand disppear with SIM and reappear. It looks like a turbo sim? isnt it?
    May be there is no real software unlock for this? who knows after they would have hardlocked


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    I just see what is going on since engadget has posted this news. Everyone is sick, waiting and counting the seconds till it is released. First of all, I think that it's possible that someone found a way for softwareunlock. But there is a lot of scam behind other companies like that one who wanted to release software today. Just all bastards waiting to get their hands on money that other people deserve.

    I don't know if dev team will publish an SW unlock, and I don't care about the others who want sell efforts of other people.
    I just hope if it's the case that they release such a sw, the dev team is willing to se how they get it and post it here for FREE. Just to keep the balance..

    For all people that cant wait and love to write BULLSHIT on this (once a qualitative high classified) forum, just calm down. If you want to spend money on such a way, do it but dont claim that there is a lack of information, like you were the boss of the dev team. Just shut up. And wait.

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    STOP IT!
    engadget did show another unlock, not the one from iphoneunlocking!!!

    engadget is still right

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiopigi View Post
    STOP IT!
    engadget did show another unlock, not the one from iphoneunlocking!!!

    engadget is still right
    Loving the blind faith in this nonsense. The fact of the matter is this: we have yet to see any REAL proof of the unlock. The phone on engadget may have been hardware unlocked. It can't be proved until it's released.

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    I'm very skeptical of the folks at iphoneunlocking.com, since I would think that with the numerous press inquiries they've received by now they would at least be eager to demonstrate the legitimacy of the unlock, even if they can't sell it.

    That having been said, the 3 AM phone call was 3 AM GMT. That equates to around 7 PM in California, still early enough for lawyers to still be working and trying to get a hold of the person. Is it sketchy? Sure, but it's not completely out of the question.

    It's also entirely possible that iphonesimfree's solution started AT&T's journey down this road already, and that iphonesimfree's folks are currently embroiled in a similar battle -- just not talking about it. This would also explain why iphonesimfree would demonstrate a solution (which by all accounts seems to work quite well), but has not otherwise bothered with any formal distribution of it -- they're still embroiled in the legal details.

    As for whether an unlocking company has been up against this sort of legal action before, we have to remember that this is probably the first time that a phone has been such a hot commodity and been exclusively within the domain of a single carrier. AT&T has much more reason with the iPhone to want to protect their current niche in the market for a little while longer than they ever have with any other phone that they've sold or distributed. It's not unreasonable to assume that the legal response to this would therefore be very different, and they might even have greater grounds for such a challenge due to their unique collaboration with Apple (under normal circumstances, it's unlikely that AT&T would have any grounds for legal action against an unlock solution for a Nokia phone, for instance, since they have nothing to do with it).

    Regardless, the whole situation sounds more than a bit sketchy, but none of the issues thus far automatically rule out its potential legitimacy. Everything described is more than reasonable. The only issue that makes me particularly skeptical is iphoneunlocking.com's lack of any demonstration of their solution to anybody. This alone makes it doubtful that they actually have one, since I would think they'd otherwise be in a rush to prove it.


 

 
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